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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Sam Inglis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:55 am

I possibly have one or two more mics than I need...

I think I have just basically acknowledged that my urge to collect things needs to be channelled somewhere! They're more useful than china figurines and smaller than cars. And since I bought nearly all of them second-hand, I hope they'll keep their value.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Arpangel » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:07 am

Sam Inglis wrote:I possibly have one or two more mics than I need...

I think I have just basically acknowledged that my urge to collect things needs to be channelled somewhere! They're more useful than china figurines and smaller than cars. And since I bought nearly all of them second-hand, I hope they'll keep their value.

Buying seccondhand is good, it's the only way to loose as little money as possible. Like, never buy a new car, same thing. But getting a good mic used can be a bit dodgy, you have to be very careful.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:18 am

No, you can't have too many mics*, but, as others have suggested, you can have the wrong mics. I don't have too many but there are a couple I might change at some point.

* I have 32 (I think) mics, mostly live/stage mics varying from cheap and cheerful to good/excellent. Some of the cheap ones are worth so little as to be not worth selling.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby shufflebeat » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:00 pm

I'm in the process of passing down some unused gear (i.e. an entire pub/small club system) to the next generation of family in Ireland. It was done for me and now I understand why.

I hope they look after my gear better than I looked after the ould fella's. Ah, the stupidity of youth.

Still, feels good.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Sam Spoons » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:10 pm

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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby ManFromGlass » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:36 pm

I am going through my CD and music book collection giving them away to a younger generation. It does feel good. Soon I will do that with my percussion instrument collection as I rarely use some of them anymore.

I don’t have many mics and rarely have the chance to use them so they will be next, but I suspect I will sell them except for a few faves. I like to take care of everything that passes through my hands. I even keep original packaging when I purchase new. I notice that I tend to place more value on something I have purchased, except for those few free things that have great memories attached to them.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby John Willett » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:07 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:
Arpangel wrote:.... you'd have to have a damn good reason to ditch the MKH's.

You're not wrong -- they're absolutely superb microphones. I actually have ten altogether -- 4x20s, 3x40s, 2x30s, and 1x50 -- and I use them all the time for all sorts of things.

I think you probably can have 'too many' mics, But that threshold will obviously vary enormously depending on what you need/want to do with them. I think I've got over 40 mics in my collection at the moment, covering all the bases from the venerable SM57 up to a Soundfield ST450mkii, with (mostly pairs) of all sorts of high-quality mics in between -- SDCs, LDCs, ribbons, and dynamics.

But I think that's the point, and I agree with Bob and JW here, that it's well worth buying the best you can because then you won't outgrow them, they'll last your whole recorsing career, and they will hold their value well for when you finally decide to downsize.

I have a policy where I review my equipment each year, and if I haven't used something for a couple of years I seriously consider disposing of it. And on that basis I did sell a couple of Neumann TLM103s last year that I wasn't using. They were/are very good mics, but I just found I always preferred using other LDC mics in my collection, and I no longer do the kind of big jobs where I needed the extra pair of mics.

I have 14 MKH mics - 2x20, 2x30, 2x40, 2x800, 2x8020, 2x8040, 2x 816F.

I do have a TLM 103 that I want to get rid of - used it only once and won't use again since I got my Gefell M 930 pair - just like Hugh I suppose; it's an excellent mic., but I have others I use instead.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby John Willett » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:10 pm

Arpangel wrote:
Sam Inglis wrote:I possibly have one or two more mics than I need...

I think I have just basically acknowledged that my urge to collect things needs to be channelled somewhere! They're more useful than china figurines and smaller than cars. And since I bought nearly all of them second-hand, I hope they'll keep their value.

Buying seccondhand is good, it's the only way to loose as little money as possible. Like, never buy a new car, same thing. But getting a good mic used can be a bit dodgy, you have to be very careful.

You have to be *very* careful when buying s/h LDCs that have been used for vocals - especially if they have been used by a smoker as the diaphragm(s) are likely to be contaminated and would therefore need cleaning or replacing.

Especially with Neumann U87s and the like, a studio may sell of an old mnic and buy a new one as replacing the capsule would cost more than selling and buying new - so be careful.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Arpangel wrote: But getting a good mic used can be a bit dodgy, you have to be very careful.

You do have to do due diligence, of course, but the majority of my mics are second hand. Especially when you're talking about up-market condensers (sorry, capacitors) I think the majority of people have the sense to care for them and treat them well which, in my experience, tends to make them a lower risk and better than average second hand buy.

In the early years I went through a lot of second hand mics, buying and selling. It was a great way of finding the mics I liked and had a use for without losing that much money.

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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby hobbyist » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:47 pm

ManFromGlass wrote:I am going through my CD and music book collection giving them away to a younger generation. It does feel good. Soon I will do that with my percussion instrument collection as I rarely use some of them anymore.

I don’t have many mics and rarely have the chance to use them so they will be next, but I suspect I will sell them except for a few faves. I like to take care of everything that passes through my hands. I even keep original packaging when I purchase new. I notice that I tend to place more value on something I have purchased, except for those few free things that have great memories attached to them.

That is the hazard of growing old. I look back and cant believe how much stuff we got rid of when we downsized and moved out of our house. Looking at the apartment I wonder how I accumulated so much in the first place.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Arpangel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:47 am

ManFromGlass wrote:I am going through my CD and music book collection giving them away to a younger generation. It does feel good. Soon I will do that with my percussion instrument collection as I rarely use some of them anymore.

I don’t have many mics and rarely have the chance to use them so they will be next, but I suspect I will sell them except for a few faves. I like to take care of everything that passes through my hands. I even keep original packaging when I purchase new. I notice that I tend to place more value on something I have purchased, except for those few free things that have great memories attached to them.

I notice a lot of people lately who are "giving" stuff away, including myself.
First of all it was built in obsolescence, now it's so cheap new, and not worth it to repair that giving it away seems the only option. Who buys CD's, or books? You might get 20p each if you're extremely lucky. Seccondhand book and record/CD shops are thin on the ground these days.
Apart from really desirable vintgae or high-end industry standard stuff, you can forget about the rest, it's almost worthless.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Mike Stranks » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:06 am

Arpangel wrote:
Who buys CD's, or books? You might get 20p each if you're extremely lucky. Seccondhand book and record/CD shops are thin on the ground these days.

I'm buying books - new, secondhand, charity shop all the time. Probably two or three a week.
For general stuff - and the odd specialist gem - charity shops are a happy hunting ground. Usually '3 for £1'. Then when you've read them you just take them back... a 'charity' library!
Much less often, but similarly I'm buying CDs like that - especially jazz and classical.

Apart from really desirable vintgae or high-end industry standard stuff, you can forget about the rest, it's almost worthless.

Err... no. I'm regularly buying and selling good shallow-end kit via EBay all the time. 99% of the time it's good quality and well-cared for. Concertina Chap has already made this point. I'm regularly selling in the high tens and low hundreds of pounds.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Arpangel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:47 am

Mike Stranks wrote:
Arpangel wrote:
Who buys CD's, or books? You might get 20p each if you're extremely lucky. Seccondhand book and record/CD shops are thin on the ground these days.

I'm buying books - new, secondhand, charity shop all the time. Probably two or three a week.
For general stuff - and the odd specialist gem - charity shops are a happy hunting ground. Usually '3 for £1'. Then when you've read them you just take them back... a 'charity' library!
Much less often, but similarly I'm buying CDs like that - especially jazz and classical.

Apart from really desirable vintgae or high-end industry standard stuff, you can forget about the rest, it's almost worthless.

Err... no. I'm regularly buying and selling good shallow-end kit via EBay all the time. 99% of the time it's good quality and well-cared for. Concertina Chap has already made this point. I'm regularly selling in the high tens and low hundreds of pounds.

Books/CD's etc......and the words "charity shop" says it all.
Sure, I buy CD's and books from charity shops, but I also give them to those shops too, because I can't sell them. I'm also very sad seeing secondhand book shops close, left right and centre. I don't see the internet as a good thing in this respect, it's destroyed a a lot of good things, like browsing in secondhand book/record/equipment shops, meeting people, making friends etc etc. The internet really is a double edged sword.
I'm also selling, like you, what I consider to be useful, "valued" items, but I'm having real trouble doing that, I'll probably end up giving most of it away at the next Sosage meet!
I've sold a few high end items with no trouble at all, they've gone within the first week of advertising, but the other stuff hangs around forever, unless you take a massive loss on it, TBQH, I'd rather give it away.
As for EBay, well, their commision rates make you feel like you've just been mugged.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby CS70 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:13 am

Arpangel wrote: Who buys CD's, or books?

If you're mixing, CDs are great for reference, so I have bought the occasional one over the years
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Mike Stranks » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:40 am

I also buy a few books each month - new - from Amazon or second-hand from EBAY. I was addressing the point, "Who buys books?" I do! :)

As for the old 'Ebay costs too much' argument... You usually have to pay to advertise if you want a good constituency. 10% seems not unreasonable for the marketplace you can access.

It's the only place I've found where you can be sure of finding purchasers for audio gear. Price it realistically and it'll sell.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Arpangel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:59 am

Mike Stranks wrote:I also buy a few books each month - new - from Amazon or second-hand from EBAY. I was addressing the point, "Who buys books?" I do! :)

As for the old 'Ebay costs too much' argument... You usually have to pay to advertise if you want a good constituency. 10% seems not unreasonable for the marketplace you can access.

It's the only place I've found where you can be sure of finding purchasers for audio gear. Price it realistically and it'll sell.

I used to sell books on Amazon, quite regularly, but even that petered out in the end. I started selling for pounds, and ended up selling for pence. I still buy from Amazon though.
I guess a lot depends on your situation, I don't like posting things, and that limits your market, also my location isn't good, when I lived in London it was a lot easier to sell stuff.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Wonks » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:12 pm

I've sold a few things (well two) on Facebook Marketplace recently. Remarkably hassle-free experience. No fees and a wide audience. No fees means that you can price items more competitively over something with a BIN or reserve price on eBay.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Arpangel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:15 pm

Wonks wrote:I've sold a few things (well two) on Facebook Marketplace recently. Remarkably hassle-free experience. No fees and a wide audience. No fees means that you can price items more competitively over something with a BIN or reserve price on eBay.

Do you have to get involved in actual Facebook to sell though? Or just use Marketplace?
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby Wonks » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:04 pm

Well, you'll need to join Facebook to access marketplace so people can contact you. But you don't have to connect/make friends with anyone else of you don't want to. And you can hide almost everything from anyone else.
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Re: Can you have too many microphones?

Postby CS70 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:40 pm

However it’s worth saying that part of the appeal of Facebook is that you can access people’s profiles and get a feel about them. People with an empty profile, no friends and no activity at all come off as real odd and It wouldn’t really appeal to me we’re I to buy something.
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