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Paul Robb: Information Society: Brother Sun Sister Moon: Working For Film & TV

Published in SOS March 1999
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A co-founder of US electro-pioneers Information Society, Paul Robb recently scored the new movie from the creators of South Park. He has a new band signed to Virgin and a dance side-project, yet still manages to write award-winning music for TV. Sam Molineaux joins him and his various alter egos in his new Los Angeles studio, Digitalis.

As South Park fever approached its peak on both sides of the Atlantic in the late Autumn, some sort of spinoff other than the passé "Oh my God, they killed Kenny!" T-shirt became inevitable. I had my money on a Christmas duet between sexy soul crooner Isaac Hayes and Les Claypool of Primus, but those marketing guys at Comedy Central went one step further with Chef Aid -- The South Park Album. This 21-track collection of tributes not only features Hayes (aka Chef in South Park, most notably on the UK New Year number one smash 'Chocolate Salty Balls') and Claypool, but the king of tribute songs himself, Elton John, alongside a whole host of other musical collaborators such as Ozzy Osbourne, Joe Strummer and Rancid. (Rumour has it South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone turned down 200 interested bands -- look out for the sequel, folks.) Undoubtedly one of the album's most vital tracks is Paul Robb's Think Tank remix of British group Vitro's offering, 'Mental Dull'. A rip-roaring hard techno number loaded with samples from various South Park episodes, it has all the makings of the world's hippest novelty single.

"It was all just a bit of a lark, silly really. But it was fun to do, and the record is huge," assures Robb, treating me to the 'alternative' version, which he'd completed earlier that day, in all its foul-mouthed glory. "I thought I'd finally waved goodbye to it, actually, but then a couple of weeks ago Matt and Trey sent me a bunch of profanity and said 'Now we want an uncensored version!'"

Paul Robb's association with Parker and Stone goes back to their pre-South Park days, when the pair were putting together their very first pilot for Fox Children's Network. Fresh out of college, they were also developing a feature film, the one musical directive of which was apparently 'Music like Information Society' -- Robb's '80s electro-pop outfit (see 'The Rise & Fall Of America's Depeche Mode' box). Although the TV pilot ended up being scrapped, the film project continued. After two years, in which the whole South Park phenomenon took root, Parker and Stone's first movie Orgazmo finally saw the light of day last October, complete with Robb's soundtrack.

"It all came about in quite a strange way. They literally just contacted me out of the blue one day," remembers Robb. "When we first spoke, Trey was very impressed to be talking to me, he was kind of a fan

"I like doing remixes, because somebody's already written half the song for you and you have the luxury of messing it up."

I suppose. It took a couple of years for them to get the funding and to get everything together, and in the meantime we became friends, through meeting at various industry events."

In the five years since his departure from Information Society, Robb has composed a substantial amount of television music (most notably for MTV's Real World and Road Rules and a string of cutting-edge TV commercial spots, of which more in a moment) but Orgazmo marks his first movie score. Being that the film is a spoof on the Los Angeles porn industry, complete with Church of the Latter Day Saint-turned-pornstar superhero Orgazmo (played by Trey Parker), it wasn't exactly your average soaring-strings type of movie score.

"There are some parts that are standard faux orchestral-style film score -- for which I made extensive use of the Peter Siedlaczek orchestra disks and the older ProSonus orchestra library -- but other parts were a little less conventional," explains Robb. "There was a disco scene, for example, which I actually used a Think Tank track for, and a few techno sections where I was free to use more of my synth arsenal. The worst part was that some of the cues were supposed to sound deliberately cheesy, which isn't easy when you fancy yourself as a composer, to take that sort of direction. I'd be saying 'Yeah -- but I don't want people to think that I actually compose like that!'"

The whole project was not without its problems, it seems, particularly since Robb's previous music-to-picture experience was confined to his previous work for the small screen. On a couple of occasions with the film work, he admits, he felt like he was flying by the seat of his pants: "My TV work definitely led me astray on the film score. For example, there was this one repeating cue, a kind of tacky wah-wah guitar part that came in every time there was a porn scene -- it's exactly the same piece of music each time, that was part of the joke. So I just recorded it the once and wrote on the master 'Use cue number 2 on reel 1', which is normal practice in TV, but the dub stages where they mix films are so horrendously expensive that they don't do anything that's going to hold up the recording process like that. It was causing eye-popping, steam-rising sort of sessions and I wasn't popular for a while!"

Nevertheless, everything came out in the wash, the movie was well received, and Robb claims to be somewhat the wiser having successfully completing his first movie project.

"We spotted the film quite extensively. There was a lot more direction than I've been used to with TV projects, but virtually all of my score survived to the final mix, which isn't always the case. Since I had no-one to tell me how to do this and I was working a lot of it out as I went along, I'm surprised it turned out so well."

Robb's involvement with the Chef Aid album came about largely from having worked on Orgazmo. "I think they thought they owed me a favour," he laughs. It was originally planned to include a Think Tank song, but they ended up doing a Think Tank remix of a Vitro song instead.

"I like doing remixes, because somebody's already written half the song for you and you have the luxury of messing it up," says Robb, not unhappy with his remix credit. "The song came to me on DAT and I basically tore it apart, broke it up into loops, rearranged it, added more drum loops and the South Park character samples, then some bass and guitar and pretty much undid everything they did on their original song!

"So over the top of Vitro's basic tracks I layered a number of loops from different sources. Some of them were from the Best Service sample library, which I use quite a lot, and I also did some of my own drum programming. The bass line was from the humblest box in the entire world, the Alesis Nanobass, which I just love. I have all these $2000 synthesizers, and I went with a little $100 box! I also used a couple of guitar samples, sort of anonymous ones that I don't really know where they came from, and that was about it on that song. It wasn't the most intricate arrangement I've ever done."

Robb explains that the main divergence from the norm on this particular remix was the sheer number of vocal samples he had to work with; four of his five samplers were taken up with South Park character samples and their widely varying levels posed some technical problems.

"Generally I work completely tapeless, where everything is virtual until I mix it to stereo, but because there were so many samples this time I had to lay some parts down to Tascam DA88. I wish I'd had Pro Tools for this project because adjusting the sample levels is exactly the kind of thing Pro Tools is good for, but instead I just had to compress the hell out of the vocals so that they came out at roughly the right level."

For Robb, working tapeless means doing everything on a Windows PC running Voyetra's Digital Orchestra Pro sequencing package. "The reason I use Digital Orchestrator Pro is because I used its predecessor, Sequencer Plus, which was the first DOS-based MIDI sequencer. It was such a powerful program, not just for its day but even now, that I couldn't give it up. I only switched to the Windows version recently because people were laughing at me for still using an old DOS-based 286. I tried Logic Audio and I have to say it totally defeated me. The thing is, I'm not dumb, it's just that Sequencer Plus on a DOS computer was lightning fast and very powerful and I got used to that. The Windows version is basically the same thing."

One frustration Robb finds with working with so many samples is the amount of physical space needed to store them -- he keeps everything on Syquest disk, having long ago filled up his CD3000's hard disk capacity. Like many programmers he has been waiting for the happy day when Akai's new S6000 sampler was available, so he could organise his samples more efficiently. Now it has arrived, and is sitting in his rack, but at the time of our interview he hadn't yet pressed it into service.

"One of the things that brought about the downfall of Information Society was that we were trying to write songs based on marketing, instead of writing songs based on what we wanted to hear."

"The good thing about the S6000 is that it has no upper limit on the size of hard disk you can use, and it stores everything as wave files. You can buy a 9Gb or 18Gb hard drive and finally put all your sounds in one place. Until now, I have them organised by physical object, by disk, which works okay but it's expensive, and takes up far too much room. Plus it's clumsy to keep having to load in Syquest disks all the time. I'm looking forward to putting all my sounds onto one hard disk on the new 6000, and cataloguing them with directories in a sensible way."

Since leaving Information Society, Paul has kept a reasonably low profile with regard to the music business; he's done a few remixes here and there, but has otherwise worked largely in the realm of television. The balance began to shift last year, however, and confident of having learnt from the mistakes of the past he's now preparing himself for a second crack at the fame game. But this time, things will be slightly different.

"One of the things that brought about the downfall of Information Society was that we were trying to write songs based on marketing, instead of writing songs based on what we wanted to hear," says Robb. "Even after I'd left I kind of continued that way of thinking. But after a while I came to realise that that wasn't the way I wanted to work, so I decided to just start writing songs how I wanted them to be, without worrying about what would happen. That's how Think Tank came about, and subsequently Brother Sun Sister Moon."

The latter, his contemporary sample-heavy duo with folk-blues singer Barbara Cohen, is due to release its first album in the spring on Virgin Records. The male programmer/female singer combination against hip-hop beats is sure to draw stylistic comparisons with British trip-hop but, as Robb explains, his was more an outgrowth of his experiments with American musical styles than any conscious assimilation of what was happening in Britain.

"I was actually trying to find a rapper to work with, but after several experiments it wasn't really happening. I knew Barbara Cohen from high school and she's always done folk music, but with a really bluesy inflectedvocal style, which I thought would make an interesting coupling with the kind of hip-hop music I was writing. We started writing the material back in 1995, and then suddenly Portishead came out. Somebody stole my idea!" he jokes.

Nevertheless, they forged ahead and along the way one of their songs, the haunting trip-hop power ballad 'Bangkok', attracted the attention of film director Jonathan Kaplan (The Accused) who cast it as the signature tune for his forthcoming Claire Danes-starring movie Brokedown Palace. "I heard that the director fell in love with the song, so we're really hoping that it will be released as the single from the soundtrack," says Robb. "The film is set in Bangkok but our song was chosen before they knew what the title was!"

Digitalis Studios Gear List     SYNTHS & SOUND MODULES Casio VZ10M. "There's one little sound called Teardrops in there, and it's the only sound I've ever used out of that box." Emu Morpheus. Emu Orbit. "These Emu boxes are just kind of one-trick ponies, and once you have that trick you can't really use it too much. Nine out of 10 times when I use the Orbit I put it through distortion." Emu Proteus 1, 2 & 3. "I, like almost everyone else who owns them, use these a lot but tend not to admit it! But some of the most expressive orchestral sounds I have come out of that Proteus 2, the oboe especially." Kurzweil Acoustic Expander (AX). "I mostly use this for string samples. In some ways some of its string samples are more effective than those on very expensive sample libraries. Even though it's less realistic when you listen to it by itself, in a mix it really makes things come alive. I often use it in collaboration with a sampled string section, and it sounds great." Kurzweil Micropiano. "I have vast numbers of giant sampled grand pianos, but generally in a mix or for one low note you don't need a sampled Bösendorfer. Something that's kind of close enough to a piano is going to work for that. If it's an exposed solo piano then I'll go to a sample from a sample CD." Oberheim DPX1. "When this first came out it was great because you could load samples from several different samplers into it. I have an orchestral cymbal sample from the old Emulator III library in there and every time I do orchestral music I use that sound. I've lugged that 20lb box around with me for years just for that one sound!" Oberheim Matrix 1000 (x4). "The Matrix 1000 is my favourite box of all time, which is why I have four of them. A lot of times I'll use all four on the same sound, just slightly detuned, and I pan all the way across the stereo field from hard left to hard right. The only thing is, they don't respond well to heat, so I always leave them switched off unless I'm actually using them." Roland BD1 (bass and drums). "This has some good snares in it, and some good acoustic basses. That's mostly all I use it for." Roland SE1 (strings). "The reason I have so many modules is because I'm very lazy. If a sound isn't right I'm more likely to continue looking for another sound than I am to tweak the sound. Especially with these menu-driven rackmount things, I don't want to get involved with that." Roland D50. "I just use this as my controller. I don't use any of those sounds any more." Roland JP8000. "When I do need to program sounds, the JP8000 usually does the job." Roland MKS50 (x2). Roland MKS70. Roland Super Jupiter MKS80. "I bought this in 1987. Along with the SPX90, it's the oldest piece of gear in the studio." Roland U110. "This is one of those boxes that's so old and strange that sometimes it's good to just throw it into a mix. There's a couple of electric piano sounds on there which sound nothing like an electric piano, but for that very reason they sound great." Yamaha TX81Z. "This is my only member of the FM synthesis family -- it comes in handy because it has its own sound." DRUM MODULES Alesis DM5. Emu Procussion. Roland R8M. SAMPLERS Akai S1000 (x2). Akai CD3000 (x3). Akai S6000. "I'm replacing the older samplers with the new S6000 right now!" Casio FZ10. "It's an 8-bit clunky old thing which I keep because I have a large library of bizarre old samples that I did before sampling was very popular. Some of them are so oddball that sometimes they're perfect for when I get stuck -- I load a disk at random and it'll give me an idea." COMPUTERS & SOFTWARE Windows PC running Voyetra Digital Orchestrator Pro. Opcode 128X MIDI interface. "I wasn't crazy about getting into the world of MIDI interfaces, because up until only last year, I used the Yamaha C1, which has built-in 8-port MIDI as well as SMPTE read and write. I was using 8-port MIDI when people didn't even know what a MIDI port was! It was just rock solid, nothing ever went wrong." EFFECTS Aphex Type C2 Exciter. BBE 462 Sonic Maximiser enhancer. Drawmer DL241 dual compressor. "I generally strap this across the stereo buss. At some point I'd like to get a better compressor, though." Boss SE50. Boss SE70. "I primarily use these for distortion." Digitech VFX Valve FX. "This is an awesome distortion box. It's so bright it will rip your head off." Ensoniq DP/2. "I also use this primarily for distortion. All four of my distortion boxes [Digitech Valve FX, Roland SE50 and SE70, Ensoniq DP2] are absolutely critical to me. They're indispensable. I rarely use synthesizers anymore without running them through a guitar box." Eventide H3000 multi-effects. FMR Audio RNC1773 Really Nice Compressor (x3). "These are my new favourite boxes. They make them in Texas, and they're incredibly cheap -- 179 dollars, I think it was. But they're great, and on a par with the Drawmer compressor." Focusrite Red 2 Dual EQ. "It's mostly just gorgeous looking! Everyone who comes in here notices it. It looks like a piece of candy, you just want to bite on it. The thing is, it's so intimidating to look at, you really can't tell if it's any good or not -- it doesn't need to be any good! I like it, though it's not quite good enough to strap across the whole mix: the EQ3D is on a par, even though it's half the price." Focusrite Red 7 Voice Channel. "This has a mic pre, a compressor, an enhancer and a de-esser in it, which we use for recording vocals." Lexicon MPX1 multi-effects. Lexicon PCM70 multi-effects. Nightpro EQ3D filter. Peavey Analog Filter. "I actually very rarely use this. I've run some loops through it to make them sound crunchy and lo-fi and it works OK. These techno people use outboard filters all the time -- it's just that this one isn't a particularly good one, and I can't justify spending a grand on something like the Waldorf DPole or the Mutator." Roland SDE1000. "I just use this for simple delays." Roland SRV2000 reverb. SPL Vitalizer. "I think this is a lot more popular in Britain than it is here. I like it, but it has so much background hiss that I can only use it in loud noisy music. The great thing about it is the way it spreads the stereo fields, it's got some kind of phase." TC Electronic M2000 multi-effects. Yamaha SPX90 multi-effects. "This was the first effects box I ever bought and it's totally on its last legs. I keep it for its stereo split program, because it sounds so grainy and nice." RECORDING Mackie 32:8 mixing desk. Tascam DA88 digital multitrack (x3). Sony VO5800 3/4-inch video deck. Sony DAT. Panasonic SV3800 DAT. Genelec monitors. HHB CD recorder. "This is my most important piece in the whole place. Everyone loves it because now I send out my work on CD instead of cassette."

The now completed Brother Sun Sister Moon debut album was recorded primarily at Robb's new studio, Digitalis, which he moved from Minnesota to the Los Angeles suburb of Venice last year. A comfortable mid-sized room, the studio includes an entire wall's worth of synths, samplers, sound modules and outboard effects [see the 'Gear List' box], while the rest of the area accommodates three Tascam DA88s, a

Confessions Of A Studio Musician     Someone like Paul Robb must be a keyboard whizz who knows his gear inside out and spends every spare minute programming new sounds, right? Wrong! "I, like one of my early idols Gary Numan, proudly admit to being a two-finger virtuoso. As a matter of fact, my keyboard skills have gone downhill. I was a much better piano player before I made my living in music," confesses Robb. "I'm different to most musicians... in fact, I'm not that different. I just admit to all these things. "Most people who make this kind of music will say 'Oh no, I never use presets', like every sound on every record is programmed from scratch, from sine waves or something. That's garbage, everyone uses presets! They tailor the music to the sound and it's a special case if you need to tailor a preset to fit into a song, not the reverse. They just never admit to it in interviews. "Basically I'm lazy -- and I'll acknowledge that. The thing is, there are so many presets in the universe of sounds now, you know. If a sound isn't right, I just keep looking until I find a better one. With a synth like the Roland JP8000 it's another story -- I'm happy to twiddle knobs when it's called for -- but generally speaking I go for presets." So what else does Paul do that's inadmissible? "I hot-swap my SCSI drives back and forth between my samplers. I've already destroyed the SCSI card on one sampler doing that, but I don't want to go out and buy several drives for every single sampler, it's ridiculous. That's why I was waiting for the Akai S6000 to come out for so long, so I could have one sampler and one very large hard drive. I also smoke like a chimney in my studio. I drop cigar ash in my mixer all the time."

couple of DAT machines, a pair of Genelec monitors, his Sony 3/4-inch video deck and video monitors for music-to-picture projects, and an expanded Mackie 32:8 mixing console.

"I love the Mackie. I have two expanders for it, which brings it up to 80 channels in total. That's really just an outgrowth of my laziness -- I want to have every box available on the board at all times. I have all my samplers, synths, and effects on it so I can do complete mixes at any time. I also mix to film on it."

With the Brother Sun Sister Moon album, however, Robb chose to mix at an outside studio, employing the services of engineer Paul McKenna. "We tracked it all here, but then we took it to various other studios to mix. Working on it all day and every day, I tend to get paranoid about losing touch with the overall picture, so I find it's really good to take it to a real engineer to help mix it. Even if I'm the one who essentially mixes it, I've got to have somebody else there to reassure me that it sounds like it's supposed to sound."

Alongside 13 original tracks and one cover (Bill Withers' 'Ain't No Sunshine') the album also includes a long-distance Brother Sun Sister Moon collaboration with British ambient techno protagonists and mixmasters Orbital, which is appearing on the new Orbital album planned for release in March. By all accounts, the Orbital brothers Hartnoll were 'blown away' by the rare quality of Barbara Cohen's voice. "Barbara's voice is both our biggest strength and our biggest weakness. A lot of people love it, but some people can't understand it. They want to hear a baby voice, the little girl from Morcheeba or the little girl from Sneaker Pimps, they don't think slow music can have a real singer on it. It was very encouraging when Orbital told us they liked our singer over and above the hundreds of offers they get," says Robb.

While writing and recording the Brother Sun Sister Moon album, Robb has also continued to pursue Think Tank, his dance music and master-remixer alter ego. Think Tank's first album, the futuristic techno-industrial Skullbuggery, released on his own Hakatak label in '96, spawned two Number One dance singles in the US, as well as providing the soundtrack to hundreds of Laser Trek laser tag installations worldwide. Meanwhile the second Think Tank album You Can Be Replaced, You Know, featuring an updated version of the 1990 dancefloor smash 'A Knife And A Fork', is complete and due for release through the Never Records Group in the Spring. Also keeping Paul busy is ongoing work with female Hakatak artist Cat Hall (pictured on page 188) for another, as-yet-untitled industrial project with female vocals.

The sample-heavy, breakbeat-oriented Think Tank formula was what provided the inspiration for Paul's first foray into scoring TV commercials: a series of five BMW ads which ran during '97 and '98. The impact of these refreshingly simple 30-second black and white ads against a backdrop of hard-hitting techno was phenomenal, and consequently earned Robb two highly coveted Clio Awards for music.

"It was an unusually collaborative effort between myself and the film editors. They would put together a rough edit, I would do a track to it, and when the music was finally approved they then cut to the music," he explains. "That was part of the reason it worked so well, but also the music sounded good. It was real music that you would buy a record of, not some warmed-over version like most advert music. I was using a lot of breakbeats and a lot of funk bass loops put through distortion boxes. All five spots utilised that template, and then I added other sounds and samples thrown over the top."

Since those first BMW ads, Paul has scored worldwide ad campaigns for Lexus and Acura cars, as well as for various drinks, computer games and sportswear products. "It's good to do commercials every once in a while, but I don't know if I have enough discipline to do it for a living," he admits. "The music part of it is fine, but I sometimes have trouble with those advertising people!"

As our interview draws to a close, I look down at my scribbled notes and wonder if I really have only been speaking to one person. Paul Robb seems to have achieved more in the last 10 years than most musicians achieve in a lifetime -- a Top 10 pop group, a successful solo techno act, strings of credits as a remixer, a TV and now a film composer, a second pop group teetering on the verge of success, not to mention fathering two kids -- and it's likely he's still only halfway done. Summing him up is not easy, as even he admits.

"People ask me 'What is it that you do?', even within the music business, and I really don't know what to tell them. These days I find myself saying 'I'm a composer', because then they don't know what to say after that and they don't ask any more questions!"

Out of the corner of my eye I notice all his alter egos nodding in agreement.