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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:40 pm
by Wonks

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:44 pm
by Wonks
People have been asking questions about it for years, but still only the QSG.

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:59 pm
by blinddrew
Wonks wrote:This is (was) part of their Xenyx range!

https://www.musictribe.com/Categories/Behringer/Mixers/Analog/UFX1604/p/P0AB3
Doh! Sorry, so it is. Let me rephrase that, I've had full manuals for all three of my Xenyx mixers! But as we know, anecdote is not the plural of data... :)

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:42 pm
by Sam Spoons
Pedant alert :headbang:

Actually, 'data' is the plural of 'datum' :D

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:48 pm
by blinddrew
Doh! Hoist by mine own petard! :headbang:

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:50 am
by zenguitar
blinddrew wrote:Doh! Hoist by mine own petard! :headbang:

I think you mean "one's own petard"...

;)

Andy :beamup:

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:59 am
by ConcertinaChap
Given what a petard is I don't think it's something you'd really want to own up to.

CC

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:58 am
by blinddrew
Not without getting a call from the counter terrorism police.

But I fear we may be drifting off topic... ;)

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:02 am
by Wonks
Note that 'petard' is an anagram of both 'parted' and 'depart'; both appropriate in this instance.

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm
by Phunky
Couldn't pass on such a good deal. Ordered one by Thomann today. Thanks for the heads up :thumbup:

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:57 am
by Richard Benn
Sorry, a bit late to this party, but I wondered if this might be any good for overdubbing away from the PC?

So if I connect a USB drive is it possible to assign WAV files on that drive that I have recorded elsewhere to the channels on the UFX1604 and then overdub on other channels? Or is it really just intended for capturing the individual channels of a live performance?

Thanks.

Richard

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:12 pm
by Wonks
The latter. Each recording session will create new files on the attached hard drive or USB stick. You can either record or play back in 'stand-alone' mode, but you can't do both at the same time.

You can of course connect a computer and use it as an interface to do what you want, but that's probably not what you were enquiring about.

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:31 pm
by Richard Benn
Thanks. I sometimes need to overdub away from the PC and I currently use a Zoom H5 for this and was thinking the Behringer might be a little more user friendly.

Richard

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:39 pm
by Wonks
It's basically a mixer with some useful extra recording functionality built-in, rather than a stand-alone recorder with mixing facilities built in.

You could always play a stereo mix of your main recording back through the mixer from say the H5 or a phone at the same time you record some new tracks. But there is a big risk that playing back from another source means that the speed will be very slightly different to the original and will drift apart over time.

Behringer UFX-1604 Official Dimensions WRONG!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:49 pm
by Wonks
A friend of mine has just bought one and has just informed me that the mixer is a lot larger than the dimensions given on the Behringer web site. That appears to be the dimensions without side panels or knobs fitted! :headbang: So don't go by them if ordering a flight case or similar for it. So definitely measure it yourself!

Apparently 530 x 450 x 110-ish, not the 'official' 530 x 398 x 89mm.

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:29 pm
by Ronnie Wibbley
Yes, that would be me, though please check those measurements yourself if you're looking for a case for it as they are very approximate!

Wonks is correct in that it's essentially a mixer which has 16 tracks of USB recording as a bonus feature, but for my needs it's almost perfect. I'm out every weekend with a band, and like to take live recordings whenever possible. The problem is that (a) we don't have a dedicated sound person, and (b) there's never enough time to faff around with settings before we start playing, so it's a question of rushing to plug the recording device in and crossing your fingers.

Until now I've been using the Cymatic LR-16 which I'm generally very pleased with, but even that needs a few minutes to set up, more space around the desk and cables everywhere. This seems a more elegant solution. Looking forward to giving it its first outing!

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:20 pm
by ConcertinaChap
Richard Benn wrote:Sorry, a bit late to this party, but I wondered if this might be any good for overdubbing away from the PC?

So if I connect a USB drive is it possible to assign WAV files on that drive that I have recorded elsewhere to the channels on the UFX1604 and then overdub on other channels? Or is it really just intended for capturing the individual channels of a live performance?

The Zoom Livetrak L-12 can do what you want according to the manual. It does cost more than the 1604 but still only £450.

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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:32 pm
by Music Wolf
ConcertinaChap wrote:
Richard Benn wrote:Sorry, a bit late to this party, but I wondered if this might be any good for overdubbing away from the PC?

So if I connect a USB drive is it possible to assign WAV files on that drive that I have recorded elsewhere to the channels on the UFX1604 and then overdub on other channels? Or is it really just intended for capturing the individual channels of a live performance?

The Zoom Livetrak L-12 can do what you want according to the manual. It does cost more than the 1604 but still only £450.

CC

Yes. There is an 'over dub' button / indicator. When enabled you can playback selected tracks whilst recording on others. I haven't tried importing tracks onto the SD card yet (I've only sent data the other way from SD to PC) but, according to the manual, it is possible as long as you name the files correctly.

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:38 pm
by Mike Stranks
Ronnie Wibbley wrote:
Until now I've been using the Cymatic LR-16 which I'm generally very pleased with, but even that needs a few minutes to set up, more space around the desk and cables everywhere. This seems a more elegant solution. Looking forward to giving it its first outing!

I, too, was an LR-16 person before I bought this Behringer. It will enable me to combine all my requirements for live sound and recording in one unit. I was allwet to but an L-12 before the Behringers were offered at the current bargain price. I don't need overdubbing so it does everything I need.

PS. Anyone wanna buy an LR-16 - complete with looms? :D

Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:55 pm
by Mike Stranks
Double-joy...

Just discovered that the Gator MixBag that I bought in the summer for some other (about to be disposed of) kit fits the Behringer perfectly.