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Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Arpangel » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:25 am

I’m thinking of getting one of these, for a sort of lo-fi vocal sound, but I’m not sure, I like the sound, from what I’ve heard, it fits the bill, but I’m wondering if I can achieve the same type of sound, for example, with my SM57 and a suitable EQ curve.
I’m going to try today, and see what happens, just wondering about people’s experiences, uses, of the Green Bullet, if any here.
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Tim Gillett » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:55 am

I'd record it with a standard mic and EQ to suit in post. They've done it forever in radio, film etc to say simulate a voice on the other end of a telephone conversation. EQ allows a far larger choice of tonal options and saves the cost of a dedicated mic too.

Restoring lofi sound to hifi is next to impossible, but degrading hifi sound to lofi is a walk in the park.
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Arpangel » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:31 am

Tim Gillett wrote:I'd record it with a standard mic and EQ to suit in post. They've done it forever in radio, film etc to say simulate a voice on the other end of a telephone conversation. EQ allows a far larger choice of tonal options and saves the cost of a dedicated mic too.

Restoring lofi sound to hifi is next to impossible, but degrading hifi sound to lofi is a walk in the park.

Good thinking, and I suppose if I use a plug-in EQ I can delete it and restore it to its original sound, hang on? I’m missing something here, you could apply that technique to a lot of things, oh computers? I must investigate those things.

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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Martin Walker » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:54 pm

Hi Tony,

I suspect Tim has the best approach for recording purposes.

My musical partner has often reached for his Shure Green Bullet for live/session harmonica work most of his working life, along with an associated small stage amp.

However, when we recorded his Green Bullet directly into my computer-based setup a few weeks ago I subsequently ended up having to put it though pre-amp/EQ plug-ins to get the most suitable end result that cut through yet sat nicely in the mix.

So, in a studio context, unless you're going for a full-on 'hands round the mic live performance', you might as well record clean and do all the hard work with plug-ins ;)

On the other hand, blinddrew has used a Bastard Electronics BM-88 mic to great effect for vocal work, where he moved between that and a 'clean' mic for different parts of a song. concertinachap of this parish also has one of these and seems pleased with it.


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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:15 pm

Martin Walker wrote:Hi Tony,

I suspect Tim has the best approach for recording purposes.

My musical partner has often reached for his Shure Green Bullet for live/session harmonica work most of his working life, along with an associated small stage amp.

However, when we recorded his Green Bullet directly into my computer-based setup a few weeks ago I subsequently ended up having to put it though pre-amp/EQ plug-ins to get the most suitable end result that cut through yet sat nicely in the mix.

So, in a studio context, unless you're going for a full-on 'hands round the mic live performance', you might as well record clean and do all the hard work with plug-ins ;)

On the other hand, blinddrew has used a Bastard Electronics BM-88 mic to great effect for vocal work, where he moved between that and a 'clean' mic for different parts of a song. concertinachap of this parish also has one of these and seems pleased with it.


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I have one too and it imparts a great 'vintage' feel to my Gypsy Jazz tunes. Nice for an intro before crossfading to a full frequency recording, sort of fading from 1940 to the present day. Also good for the middle section vocals when we play Aqualung live :D
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Arpangel » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:22 am

Sam Spoons wrote:I have one too and it imparts a great 'vintage' feel to my Gypsy Jazz tunes. Nice for an intro before crossfading to a full frequency recording, sort of fading from 1940 to the present day. Also good for the middle section vocals when we play Aqualung live :D

Got to have one then, but I’ll be fading from the present day, to 1940, not the other way around.

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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:47 am

Drop "dethniteblod" of this parish a PM, he makes them occasionally and was planning another batch last time he posted.

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=229889
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Arpangel » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:00 am

Sam Spoons wrote:Drop "dethniteblod" of this parish a PM, he makes them occasionally and was planning another batch last time he posted.

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=229889

Thanks, looks good, that BM88 sounds amazing, does he make them one-off? I’d love one.
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby blinddrew » Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:35 am

Drop him a PM. I've found mine occasionally useful in the studio (it's relatively easy to replicate the effect) but very useful live.
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Arpangel » Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:05 am

blinddrew wrote:Drop him a PM. I've found mine occasionally useful in the studio (it's relatively easy to replicate the effect) but very useful live.

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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby DGL. » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm

If you want to get an idea of the 520DX's vocal sound then it was the mic H.P. from scooter used from Back To The Heavyweight Jam and onwards and it's interesting to compare live performaces where said mic has not been used to ones where it has (generally via a high end Shure wireless system) and the diference in the sound achieved.
Naturally Rick Stedler who did all the recordings would have got to know what dynamics/effects to apply to get the required sound so that would have had some effect.
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby ManFromGlass » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:45 pm

Arpangel wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:Drop "dethniteblod" of this parish a PM, he makes them occasionally and was planning another batch last time he posted.

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=229889

Thanks, looks good, that BM88 sounds amazing, does he make them one-off? I’d love one.
I’ve used mine for recording and love it when I need that vibe :thumbup:
I can’t recall if I needed to EQ the results. I also have the green bullet but can’t remember if I ever used it on anything but harmonica. I think one needs to get really close with the bullet but it could be an interesting test on other instruments.
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Re: Shure Green Bullet?

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:48 pm

Arpangel wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:Drop "dethniteblod" of this parish a PM, he makes them occasionally and was planning another batch last time he posted.

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=229889

Thanks, looks good, that BM88 sounds amazing, does he make them one-off? I’d love one.

In that thread I linked he was taking about making another batch back in January, it's a very specific sound but, for the price, well worth having.
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