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Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:15 am
by blinddrew
Useful, thanks Tim. It wasn't intentional so i'll have another look at that. I was in a less-than-ideal situation when i recorded the bass so there may be a compromise too far there.
Might need re-recording when the external environment is a bit better.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:37 pm
by blinddrew
Chasing my tail a bit on this one still. https://soundcloud.com/blinddrew/good-m ... 19/s-igz06
Parked it for a bit and thought i was making bit of progress but now I'm not so sure.
Any comments gratefully received.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:16 pm
by Logarhythm
I'm not a proficient mixer and never do anything with vocals, to the extent that I'm not even convinced that I have the vocabulary to convey what I'm hearing, and my comments rightly deserve lots of scepticism, but for me the vocal is a bit too prominent; it doesn't quite feel like part of the same space as the music.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:17 am
by DC-Choppah
The Elf wrote:As a stylistic choice I would push the vocal much further back in this song.

Fresh ears here. I just listened and I am giving you my first impressions as a fresh listener. The vocals stick way out of the mix and if I was mixing this I would try to blend them in. It caught my ear right away and was the only thing that I really noticed mix-wise. I just noticed the Elf said the same thing too.

There are places where the drum timing sounds wrong and is distracting.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:16 am
by blinddrew
Cheers folks, useful stuff. :)

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:58 pm
by James Perrett
Get another drummer! The drums are a bit monotonous in the verse where you could do with a little (just a little mind you) punctuation between lines. In the chorus they go off into a world of their own and the song loses its flow. I can kind of see what the drums are trying to do in the chorus but they are a long way from achieving it.

As has been mentioned - the bass is all low end and will get lost on many playback systems - could it be doubled with a more middly sound?

And the vocals are slightly high but it sounds like they need to be the focus so don't bring them down much.

I really like much about the song though - reminds me a bit of The Bible and Boo Hewardine's early solo stuff.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:12 pm
by blinddrew
Sadly the drummer comes included the package, it's a long way from my strongest suit. ;)
The verse is some loops from power drummer, the chorus is sadly all my own work. I shall have a further think, less will probably be more...
Vocal-wise i'm certain i did some work to get them sitting better after the feedback last time, but i've obviously buggered around with things since.
Might park it for now as my ears are a bit rusty - most of my free time is going on smashing up the concrete and hardcore in the garden.

Think that synth might be muddying things up a bit as well.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:51 pm
by James Perrett
blinddrew wrote:Sadly the drummer comes included the package, it's a long way from my strongest suit. ;)
The verse is some loops from power drummer, the chorus is sadly all my own work. I shall have a further think, less will probably be more...

If I you are trying to do what I think you are trying to do then you need someone pretty skilled to carry it off. It would be well worth stripping it back and going with something straighter for now unless you happen to know a skilled drummer/percussionist.

blinddrew wrote:Vocal-wise i'm certain i did some work to get them sitting better after the feedback last time, but i've obviously buggered around with things since.

They're not bad and, if you'd sent me something like that to master, I probably would assume that it is a vocally driven song and work accordingly. Having had a second listen, I'd say that riding the vocal level would be a good idea - taking it down at the start and pushing it up later as the vocals sit better in this mix where things get busy.

blinddrew wrote:Think that synth might be muddying things up a bit as well.

I thought that the synths and melodic instruments worked pretty well.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:28 am
by blinddrew
Thanks again James, will take it on board and cogitate.

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:34 pm
by blinddrew
Ok, that's a bit weird. I swear I remember doing a load of vocal fader riding but looking at the track now it's plainly not there. Which makes me think I've managed to pick up an older version somewhere. So I wonder what else I've not done that I thought I had.
Shoddy version control. :(

Either that or I've imagined the whole thing...

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:25 pm
by John Willett
blinddrew wrote:Either that or I've imagined the whole thing...

Probably :lol:

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:59 pm
by blinddrew
Quite a reasonable chance of that! If anyone sees the plot anywhere please could they mail it back to me... ;)

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:22 pm
by Dave B
I'm glad someone else brought up the drums. I was starting to think that it was just me.

Drew - bung me over a version without drums and I'll happily have a stab at creating an alternate set.... :)

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:31 pm
by blinddrew
Cheers Dave, very much appreciated. Still digging out the garden at the moment but I'll try and get a drumless copy across to you this weekend.
:thumbup:

Re: Sound check (and sense check)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:40 pm
by Wonks
blinddrew wrote: Still digging out the garden at the moment

Either it's a lot colder up there than down here, or you are completely mad! I hardly have enough energy to type!