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Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:09 pm
by Panda
Hi!

Long time since my last post here! So I have a question which might be a little odd. We recorded an album with my band, an acoustic ensemble. We decided to put one tune on the CD as a hidden track, and to make that track sound as if it was taken from a very old record.

This is the kind of sound we're trying to recreate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSsBuPCzY8

The mix is in ProTools. Question is: how to turn a decent sounding recording into something like this?

Thanks for your input!

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:25 pm
by RichardT
Panda wrote:Hi!

Long time since my last post here! So I have a question which might be a little odd. We recorded an album with my band, an acoustic ensemble. We decided to put one tune on the CD as a hidden track, and to make that track sound as if it was taken from a very old record.

This is the kind of sound we're trying to recreate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSsBuPCzY8

The mix is in ProTools. Question is: how to turn a decent sounding recording into something like this?

Thanks for your input!

I use the Vinyl plugin from Izotope.

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:29 pm
by James Perrett
RichardT wrote:
I use the Vinyl plugin from Izotope.

Which happens to be free at the moment.

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:53 pm
by Panda
Ok, thanks! I checked out the trailer (I don't have PT here at home anyway). Is it geared to really go all the way like in the tune I linked to in my post?

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:59 pm
by RichardT
Panda wrote:Ok, thanks! I checked out the trailer (I don't have PT here at home anyway). Is it geared to really go all the way like in the tune I linked to in my post?

Best thing is to give it a go!

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:02 pm
by Panda
RichardT wrote:
Panda wrote:Ok, thanks! I checked out the trailer (I don't have PT here at home anyway). Is it geared to really go all the way like in the tune I linked to in my post?

Best thing is to give it a go!

Fair enough, let's see what happens!

Still, I'd be interested to hear other ways to get there if anyone knows of any!

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:04 pm
by desmond
Make it mono, reduce the frequency range (ie roll off the highs and lows), maybe compress a little, maybe distort a little, make the pitch be slightly unstable perhaps, and add a looped vinyl noise/crackle sample...

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:08 pm
by Vox Gnus
No idea what budget you're considering, but Audioease Speakerphone is fantastic for this sort of thing (and much more). It's expensive, and getting a bit old, but there isn't much that compares. Check out the demos and see if it fits your needs.

https://www.audioease.com/speakerphone/

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:10 pm
by Panda
Vox Gnus wrote:No idea what budget you're considering, but Audioease Speakerphone is fantastic for this sort of thing (and much more). It's expensive, and getting a bit old, but there isn't much that compares. Check out the demos and see if it fits your needs.

https://www.audioease.com/speakerphone/

Interesting, but I doubt the studio has this and for sure they're not going to buy it for just this one tune. I know I'm not :-)

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:11 pm
by CS70
Panda wrote:Ok, thanks! I checked out the trailer (I don't have PT here at home anyway). Is it geared to really go all the way like in the tune I linked to in my post?

As noise and other nasties go, if I remember well it can do much worse. :D

For the general sound, not sure, worst case you can do the lot simply by following Desmond's ideas.

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:22 pm
by blinddrew
RichardT wrote:
Panda wrote:Hi!

Long time since my last post here! So I have a question which might be a little odd. We recorded an album with my band, an acoustic ensemble. We decided to put one tune on the CD as a hidden track, and to make that track sound as if it was taken from a very old record.

This is the kind of sound we're trying to recreate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSsBuPCzY8

The mix is in ProTools. Question is: how to turn a decent sounding recording into something like this?

Thanks for your input!

I use the Vinyl plugin from Izotope.
Yep, that sounds like exactly the kind of effect you can get from Vinyl if you crank the settings right the way up. And if you need any more then Desmond's toolkit above should be able to take you right back to wax-cylinder territory. ;)

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:28 pm
by Tim Gillett
James Perrett wrote:
RichardT wrote:
I use the Vinyl plugin from Izotope.

Which happens to be free at the moment.
Yes that asking price seems about right.

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:12 pm
by MOF
https://www.waves.com/plugins/abbey-roa ... gL70PD_BwE

I own it and apart from, in your case, having to cut a bit more bass and treble before the plugin it should work well; currently £29.99.

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:12 am
by Martin Walker
Another vote for iZotope Vinyl, which as far as I remember has ALWAYS been free, and can add effects ranging from subtle to extreme.

It's particularly good at adding vinyl clicks, pops, dust, scratches & warps, so as others have said, I doubt that you'll need anything else. Just dial in your desired decade for EQ, your chosen vinyl speed, and then tweak the rest to taste.

If I recall correctly, you can also download various presets from the iZotope web site for it, to simulate various desired results & save you fiddling about too much ;)

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/vinyl.html


Martin

Re: Recreating an old vinyl sound

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:08 am
by Mike Stranks
Another very occasional iZotope Vinyl user here. :thumbup: