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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Watchmaker » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:40 pm

Luke W wrote:You can never have too many clamps:

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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Dennis J Wilkins » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:49 am

Hi Luke,

Looks very nice and I expect it sounds fine. You've set up significant treatment symmetrically left to right, and the odd room/ceiling angles should help disperse standing waves. If you get a chance you should try Room EQ Wizard to view frequency and time domain performance. Really helps to see just what is going on at the primary listening position and a few feet around it. You might get some rear reflections from the windows which was an issue I had until I added the hanging panels I showed in the Studio SOS article in April (2019). It does cut out the nice view and natural light, but in my case I wanted the room light-tight for photo work, so I didn't mind! In your room, heavy drapes might do the trick if you find any comb filtering issues from rear reflections, and you could open it when you're noodling around with your guitars and don't need mix/mastering level room response.

I hope you really enjoy it!
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:30 am

Thanks, Dennis. I'm planning on giving REW a go out of interest, I'd like to have measured the room first as well to get a comparison but my lack of patience got the better of me. The window has got some curtains now, but any good that's done has probably been reversed by the two screens! I've made sure they're back behind the monitors as much as possible to minimise any issues, and it seems to be a good compromise. There's still two skylights in the rear wall/ceiling so natural light is still available.
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:31 am

Folderol wrote:That's some serious carpentry there - those angles would drive me off screaming :o

Thanks, I find that things like this always look more daunting than they are though. Measure twice and all that...
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:18 pm

Fabric time... Based on recommendations on here some general searching, I went for some Camira Cara fabric. It costs a little more than some of the alternatives, but it's really easy to work with and I think the finish makes it more than worth it. It also comes in a decent width so I ended up with very little waste.

A few of the panels and the traps didn't get any pictures taken as I got a bit carried away once I'd started the first one, but theres enough of the others to see what was going on.

Using an off-cut for one of the smaller panels (missing some Rockwool in this picture):
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Front side:
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One of the square panels:
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Front of both square panels (the fold in the left one has since worked its way out):
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Side panels all done:
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Before the final fixing I gave the backs of the panels a spray with a mix of PVA/water to make sure no loose fibres went floating around.
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby OneWorld » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:01 pm

Music Wolf wrote:That looks very neat. It certainly puts my DIY / woodworking skills to shame :sick:

Same here, no matter what I try all the wiring looks like an explosion in a spaghetti factory
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Sam Spoons » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:16 pm

Good colour choice there Luke. :thumbup:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:53 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:Good colour choice there Luke. :thumbup:
Does it look a bit familiar?! :thumbup:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:26 pm

Onto the ceiling panel fabric...

To get a nice edge on the outside of the ceiling panels I attached some thin moulding to the edge of the frames, held in place with some panel pins and glue. Once it had dried I cut the edges flush and sanded them over, making sure everything was nice and smooth so there wasn't any chance of tearing the fabric at the edges.

Glued up, waiting to dry:
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Fabric stapled roughly into place:
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Front side:
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Once all three ceiling panels were covered I lined them up together and clamped the back edges, and fixed them together by screwing through the frames from the inside of the panel outwards, directly into the next frame. A few screws going either way made sure to clamp the panels tightly together, and left a neat join between them.

All three up, with a test fit for the cover plate that finishes up the edge of the panels:
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You can also see the cable for a light fitting making its way through behind the panel. To mount a light fitting, I used a bit of 12mm MDF, and covered it with an off-cut of Cara.

Light fitting mount:
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With everything fixed back up, the next job was to start framing up and working on some little finishing off bits for around the edges and ends of the various panels. I'll have another sort through some photos and hopefully get some of the next stage up tomorrow. :thumbup:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:00 pm

This stage seems to have a few less pictures, but I've got some some showing how I got the finish on the wood, and a few various stages of the framing going up.

All of the wood I used was just standard softwood timber, a lot cheaper than using anything fancy. Once pieces were cut to length and fitting nicely I gave all the visible faces and edges a sand over (a fine grit paper was enough as planed timber is usually already fairly smooth), and then set about burning them with a blowtorch. This takes a bit of getting used to, once the flame is close enough the wood can go from "exaggerated grain" to simply just on fire rather quickly, I had a go on a few offcuts first to try and avoid having to make things again.

Half way:
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Ready:
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Two coats of dye rubbed in:
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Fitted, after a coat of wax polish:
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I also made an end panel to sit above this cover plate, and meet board the light is mounted on. It was another bit of spare MDF cut into shape with an offcut of Cara stapled around it, sized so that the cover plate being screwed in clamps it firmly into place.
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Folderol » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:48 pm

Now that is positively sneaky :bouncy: :clap: :thumbup:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:41 am

Things were really starting to take shape by this point, I did this while I had a bit of time off so I was keen to get it in working state before I got too busy again, and the arrival of a shiny new keyboard and a copy of Komplete Ultimate was encouraging me even more.

I decided to build a stand to get my screen mounted back behind the front faces of the monitors to minimise reflections as much as possible, and to save on desk space. I also thought that if something was going to sit there at the back wall, it may as well be full of Rockwool.

The start of a frame, using some spare bits of MDF and ply:
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Using up all of my Rockwool offcuts:
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Front view, with a top made from a leftover bit of a previous build:
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Trimming up the bottom with more offcuts:
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My speaker stands also arrived around this time from Custom Design, another recommendation from here. Here is one assembled and ready:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:33 pm

Next up, side panel framing. I also decided to make some front faces for the panels at the back to break things up a bit visually as it was all looking very blue.

I cut a load of slats from two different width timbers, and glued them between two strips cut to the length of the rear panels. These then got the same blowtorch/dye/wax finish to match the rest of the framework.

One in progress:
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Test fit (upside down :roll: ):
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Various stages of frame finishing:
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A finished face plate:
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One side complete, the frame around the edges is screwed straight to the frame around the rockwool, and the face plates were cut in very tightly and have some panel pins doing the rest:
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I then got my desk and kit set up and actually had a listen to some music. I'd been working almost entirely on headphones with the desk facing a different way, so I'd had a listen to some tracks with my old Tannoys on the desk just before I cleared the room to give me an idea of how the space sounded untreated (no surprise endings there). Listening to the same material again with the panels up really was surprising, I had expected a difference, just not quite as much considering the limited space.

I paused on the build here and used the setup as it was for a few months. Half finished, it looked like this:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Watchmaker » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:36 pm

nice shop! I'm surprised you used mapp gas for the burn, I would have used a lower temperature gas, but the results are stunning. I can never tell if I like woodwork more than music. I seem to more time with saws and chisels as I do recording or playing these days. Well done Luke. More pics please.
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:13 pm

Thanks, really appreciate it :thumbup:

I really enjoy woodwork, it's definitely up there with audio/music for me. You're right about the choice of gas, something a little cooler would have made my life a lot easier but I had a bottle to hand and it got the result I was after, I just had to be a little careful!

I've got a few more pictures of panels and some other little bits and pieces and then a silly amount of the desk build, so I'll get some up here once I've sorted through them.
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Martin Walker » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:43 pm

Wow Luke, this is all stunning work, and I'm convinced that many of us feel more creative in a supportive space like this, so it hope all this effort translates into lots more music!

Bravo once again!


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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:31 pm

Thanks, Martin. I'm definitely finding it more inspiring to work in already, I'm also planning on clearing some space and getting set up to be able to record a few instruments here and there as well as mixing so I'm looking forward to that.

Something a little different now... With some new monitors on order, I decided to make up some heavy bases for my stands to, well, stand on. The idea was to get a bit of extra mass between the monitors and the wooden floor, the stands themselves are filled with sand and are already very substantial but considering it didn't require any purchases I didn't think it could hurt.

I used a very heavy stone floor tile and some off cuts of an underlay used for dance floors.

The tile:
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Sliced up:
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Rough cut underlay:
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Glued up and weighted:
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Trimmed to size and edges painted:
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In place:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Martin Walker » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:43 am

Wow - you are most handy with your hands Luke - the force is strong with you! 8-)


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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:18 pm

That's very kind, thank you :thumbup:

Well I've sorted out the last few bits before the desk build, the first bits were a 1200mm x 600mm panel straight above the listening position, and two 600mm square panels on the sloped ceiling either side.

The panels pre-fabric:
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Fixed up ready for framing:
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Framing:
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Re: Attic Room Studio Build

Postby Luke W » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:40 pm

Last bit before the desk build...

I had a load of bed slats hanging around so I thought I'd make up some decorative panels to run along the walls above the side panels to fill the gap between the panel frame and ceiling. The same flame/stain/wax approach got them looking much the same as the other timber, and a thin backing board cut to shape gave me something to mount the slats to so they could all go up in one big piece.

Preparing the slats:
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Ply backing cut to shape:
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Slats glued down and edges trimmed:
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Both sides up:
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The next stage was a new desk to replace the temporary office desk and make the most use of the narrow space, I'm just sorting through another batch of pictures to upload so once they're up I'll get started again. :thumbup:
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