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Postby marumbra » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:45 am

Do any of you wonderful people know how I should begin on grasping music theory, to eventually reach that of the godsend Jacob Collier
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby Guest » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:35 am

Never heard of him. Could you enlighten me?
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby Wonks » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:09 pm

A YouTube sensation, it would appear. Here's his YT channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtmY49 ... JnTWfV7Wsg
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:23 pm

I doubt that music theory is the key to his talent......
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby Sam Inglis » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:23 pm

... and protege of Quincy Jones, no less.

IIRC Jacob Collier has a jazz background, so I'd suggest learning jazz harmony as a good starting point. There are tons of resources available online.
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby BJG145 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:26 pm

He's quite fun.

Sam Inglis wrote:IIRC Jacob Collier has a jazz background


Studied jazz piano with Simon Colam at the Purcell School for Young Musicians apparently. Immersed in classical music from a young age with a penchant for Britten, and self-taught on a bunch of different instruments.
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby OneWorld » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:01 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:I doubt that music theory is the key to his talent......

Yep, more like har-money judging by all the swag he has at his disposal, he's good self publicist has to be granted that, but I don't hear anything that could be described as harmonically compelling.

If you want to learn harmony read the book "Harmony" by Walter Piston, that'll boil your brain!
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby joeyondakeys » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:09 pm

Well it would help to know what level you're currently at, your starting/most proficient instrument, etc. And remember, what what works for one person is not necessarily the best method for another to reach their Max potential. There are many methods that are universally effective, but catering to each person's specific needs/goals I think is the best route. Anyways, I don't know how in depth of an answer youre actually looking for, but here to help
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby BJG145 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:20 pm

OneWorld wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:I doubt that music theory is the key to his talent......

Yep, more like har-money

When I clicked on the link I wanted to hate it...I mean, editing eight clones of yourself into a room, playing an autoharp and an mbira...really...? :tongue:

I did get drawn in though. Some of his arrangements are quite complex; eg it would take a little while to transcribe this excerpt...and with 1.6m views for Hideaway he's not doing too badly in the popularity stakes.
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby GilesAnt » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:17 pm

Walter Piston might boil your brain but for the full BBQ effect try Harmony by Ebenezer Prout.

Sure you might need a stiff drink to hand, but it does all start to make sense in the end.
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby Forum Admin » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:39 am

Jacob won two Grammys too.

He has perfect pitch, which helps.
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby joeyondakeys » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:42 am

Forum Admin wrote:Jacob won two Grammys too.

He has perfect pitch, which helps.

To be honest I think perfect pitch is the most irrelvent reason for his success. Not as useful as you might think. Just very efficient. Many of the greats did not have perfect pitch
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby marumbra » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:07 am

Forum Admin wrote:Jacob won two Grammys too.

He has perfect pitch, which helps.

I have it. I don't think that's really the key to success.
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby marumbra » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:07 am

Sam Spoons wrote:I doubt that music theory is the key to his talent......

Then what is?
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Re: Jacob Collier

Postby marumbra » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:09 am

OneWorld wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:I doubt that music theory is the key to his talent......

Yep, more like har-money judging by all the swag he has at his disposal, he's good self publicist has to be granted that, but I don't hear anything that could be described as harmonically compelling.

If you want to learn harmony read the book "Harmony" by Walter Piston, that'll boil your brain!

What about the complex chords in his arrangements? I just feel like he is on a completely different level than most musicians, is that not true?
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