In our church we switched from 01V96 to TF3. The 01V96 is about 15 years old, not all the faders were working properly and two preamps were dead. We had a setup with an Behringer ADA8000 to add another 8 preamps, and 8 outputs, so 20 micpreamps, 4 line inputs, 8 buses, 8 auxes, 8 fader groups, 8 mute groups, 14 outputs, pretty neat.
Previously I had worked with LS9's, and I liked the GEQ's, but I had noticed that the idea of group faders hadn't been implemented, which was a pity, and when comparing the LS9 to the 01V96, in our setup, the LS9 was offering less for a lot more money, as we could fix ringing monitors with the PEQ.
Once our desk started degenerating, I started looking around a bit more, this was around the time the TF series was launched.
In the end we settled for a TF3, which seemed alright on paper (there was a lot to like);
- recallable preamps
- no fader groups, but VCA with spill function
- GEQ on outputs
- Scribble strips
- colour coded faders
Once the thing was installed, we switched from 01V96 to TF3 in 1 hour and 15 minutes, with 15 minutes to go before the rehearsal! Thanks to the offline editor.
But after that I started missing features I had assumed to find on the new desk.
-To my ears the effects on LS9 are superior to those on the TF3, I remember the difference between 01V96/02R/01V effects and running effects on the LS9, and I was surprised that I didn't have the same feeling with the effects on the TF3, alright it doesn't state that the effects are VCM or REV-X effects, but I sort of hoped they would have match the quality.
- another disappointment was not having an input patch, I am used to having different EQ settings for the same source, and just muting a channel when the musician switches to another guitar (the multicore is quiet crowed)
- And the next surprise was that you can't patch effects to your channel inserts, because your channel insert doesn't exist. There is a sort of work around but it isn't one really, you can send that channel to an aux 9,10-19,20, where you can patch this effect, but you can't return to your channel, guitar cab simulator, Multi Dynamic Compressor. This is a odd way of working.
-The next disappointment was, not being able to delay the outputs, except the 4 Matrix buses, we've got 5 monitorlines, a sub and L/R so that's just another missed chance, the omniouts should have had delay lines.
-A last thought is that Yamaha should start implementing 96k on their desks.
Again I think of the 01V96, it just had all those features.
You must think why didn't he buy a new 01V96, well I just wanted recallable preamps to make life easier when switching between different users. And I made the fault of thinking Yamaha weren't leaving out any features from older desks...
So check, double check and triple check before assuming things will have improved with newer series.