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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby nathanscribe » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:30 pm

Having owned/borrowed/repaired/poked at a few things that would once have set me drooling, I can more or less safely say I don't have a dream synth any more, and certainly these days I wouldn't bother spending four figure sums (or more!) on vintage. Got a JP6 here at the moment and I have to say it's not blown me away, and I prefer the simpler, wonkier, crappier JP4 by a long stretch. I've had a couple of Junos since the early 90s and they're great for reliable bread and butter poly duties, and never sound bad in anything, but again they're very good rather than amazing. If I was starting from scratch now, I'd grab one of the new Prophets. A friend is always sending me tempty demos of the Rev2, and he is getting *very* good results from it.

Someone once told me, you'll want everything till you've tried it. Your dream vintage is gonna be great until you have to spend a small fortune paying someone to sweat for 6 months trying to fix it with parts that don't exist any more.

I'll be buried in a vault with my Juno 6, by the way. First synth and last. :D
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby BillB » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:38 pm

nathanscribe wrote:Someone once told me, you'll want everything till you've tried it.

That explains so much that's wrong in my life.... :headbang:

Great advice, Nathan.
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby Martin Walker » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:58 pm

Indeed :bouncy:

Sage advice Nathan, and I will try to live with it in mind :ugeek:


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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby desmond » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:58 pm

And... the ebay auction was removed. :headbang:
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby 3rdConstruction » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:23 pm

John Bowen's Solaris has been mentioned before. A very knobby layout with minimal menu diving and from what you can hear online a very rich sound. Some really beefy sounding analog emulations (John doing the Lucky Man minimoog patch sounded lovely to my ears) but also some novel digital sound shaping possibilities.
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:38 am

desmond wrote:And... the ebay auction was removed. :headbang:

Not a problem I got the handbag ;)
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby baward » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:35 pm

It's (or will be) your money, but personally, I'd run screaming from an eBay auction page. If you're going to offload lots of money on a 'vintage' synth, get one from a dealer as a) you'll be guaranteed that it works at point of sale and b) presumably there'd be follow-up support. No guarantees of either with someone on eBay.

Dealers are generally more expensive, but you get what you pay for, as the cliche goes.

Or buy a Behringer DeepMind/Roland Juno 60 + some new studio gear and take yourself and a.n.other on a lovely holiday :bouncy:
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby BJG145 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:13 pm

desmond wrote:And...the ebay auction was removed.

I'm an idiot. I'm disgusted with myself.

(Really hoping that Synthi in the Gardening section doesn't go the same way.)
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby Richie Royale » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:17 pm

Not seen one in the flesh or heard one beyond a YT vid, but these make me want to spend money (any of them, but 002 or 008 are in your ballpark):

http://www.modalelectronics.com/
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:18 pm

Richie Royale wrote:Not seen one in the flesh or heard one beyond a YT vid, but these make me want to spend money (any of them, but 002 or 008 are in your ballpark):

http://www.modalelectronics.com/

The Modals are really lovely (I had a quick play on them at Synthfest) controls feel luxurious and they sound amazing.
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:48 am

Very close to making a decision now!

A battle of the Brain vs Heart

It now seems obvious - I should get a DSI Rev 2 :- is is more powerful (3 EGs 4 LFOs), quality 5 octave keybed with aftertouch, no stupid alien inspired LEDs and doesn't try to rip me off with extra cash for end cheeks. (and will likely hold its value in the future)

However, I had a play on the System 8 and I gelled with the interface immeadiatly.
It does the vintage poly thing pefectly and the lack of LFOs can be mitigated to some extent by sequencing control signals.

I do have a nasty feeling that if I buy the S8, Roland will release a proper update with a better case and keyboard. If Roland had done a decent job in the first place the S8 would be a no-brainer - someone at Roland need a 'punch up the bracket' for not designing this thing right in the first place!

Will continue to mull this over for a short while - but heart is likely to win
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby Eddy Deegan » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:59 am

One of the things I'll kick myself for until the day I shuffle off this mortal coil was that a friend of mine in school in the mid-80s was a synth nut and owned (amongst other things) a Jupiter-8.

At the time I was a spotty, nerdy classical pianist.

I laid hands on said device and immediately discounted it based on its 'hideously limited' polyphony, lack of an 8-octave weighted keyboard and a superficial judgmental viewpoint of the patches as seen by a talented but idiotic 15-year-old pianist.

I know better now. I've always regretted my youthful stupidity on that front.

What a thing!
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby Jumpeyspyder » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:17 am

To be fair - at least in my case (3 chords isn't really enough :blush: )
My best upgrade would be to stick with my existing gear and get some piano / keyboard lessons!

But GAS is too strong - accidently temporarily scuppered my plan - saw a Deepmind 12 at a ridiculous price (pretending to myself that it will cover my Juno60 /106 lust) :headbang:
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Re: Dream Synths - Share and advice !

Postby The Elf » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:39 am

The JP8 is still the most beautiful synth ever made IMO, but I wouldn't have another. I got heartily sick of trying to keep it in tune (I never had the panel screws in, because it needed tuning every time I switched it on), and if anything *did* go wrong, then good luck finding someone able to repair it.

I went for the System-8 as a replacement and never looked back. It has its faults, but it's close enough for rock 'n' roll.
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