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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Richard Benn » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:57 am

Sorry, a bit late to this party, but I wondered if this might be any good for overdubbing away from the PC?

So if I connect a USB drive is it possible to assign WAV files on that drive that I have recorded elsewhere to the channels on the UFX1604 and then overdub on other channels? Or is it really just intended for capturing the individual channels of a live performance?

Thanks.

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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Wonks » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:12 pm

The latter. Each recording session will create new files on the attached hard drive or USB stick. You can either record or play back in 'stand-alone' mode, but you can't do both at the same time.

You can of course connect a computer and use it as an interface to do what you want, but that's probably not what you were enquiring about.
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Richard Benn » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:31 pm

Thanks. I sometimes need to overdub away from the PC and I currently use a Zoom H5 for this and was thinking the Behringer might be a little more user friendly.

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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Wonks » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:39 pm

It's basically a mixer with some useful extra recording functionality built-in, rather than a stand-alone recorder with mixing facilities built in.

You could always play a stereo mix of your main recording back through the mixer from say the H5 or a phone at the same time you record some new tracks. But there is a big risk that playing back from another source means that the speed will be very slightly different to the original and will drift apart over time.
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Behringer UFX-1604 Official Dimensions WRONG!

Postby Wonks » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:49 pm

A friend of mine has just bought one and has just informed me that the mixer is a lot larger than the dimensions given on the Behringer web site. That appears to be the dimensions without side panels or knobs fitted! :headbang: So don't go by them if ordering a flight case or similar for it. So definitely measure it yourself!

Apparently 530 x 450 x 110-ish, not the 'official' 530 x 398 x 89mm.
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Ronnie Wibbley » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:29 pm

Yes, that would be me, though please check those measurements yourself if you're looking for a case for it as they are very approximate!

Wonks is correct in that it's essentially a mixer which has 16 tracks of USB recording as a bonus feature, but for my needs it's almost perfect. I'm out every weekend with a band, and like to take live recordings whenever possible. The problem is that (a) we don't have a dedicated sound person, and (b) there's never enough time to faff around with settings before we start playing, so it's a question of rushing to plug the recording device in and crossing your fingers.

Until now I've been using the Cymatic LR-16 which I'm generally very pleased with, but even that needs a few minutes to set up, more space around the desk and cables everywhere. This seems a more elegant solution. Looking forward to giving it its first outing!
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby ConcertinaChap » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:20 pm

Richard Benn wrote:Sorry, a bit late to this party, but I wondered if this might be any good for overdubbing away from the PC?

So if I connect a USB drive is it possible to assign WAV files on that drive that I have recorded elsewhere to the channels on the UFX1604 and then overdub on other channels? Or is it really just intended for capturing the individual channels of a live performance?

The Zoom Livetrak L-12 can do what you want according to the manual. It does cost more than the 1604 but still only £450.

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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Music Wolf » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:32 pm

ConcertinaChap wrote:
Richard Benn wrote:Sorry, a bit late to this party, but I wondered if this might be any good for overdubbing away from the PC?

So if I connect a USB drive is it possible to assign WAV files on that drive that I have recorded elsewhere to the channels on the UFX1604 and then overdub on other channels? Or is it really just intended for capturing the individual channels of a live performance?

The Zoom Livetrak L-12 can do what you want according to the manual. It does cost more than the 1604 but still only £450.

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Yes. There is an 'over dub' button / indicator. When enabled you can playback selected tracks whilst recording on others. I haven't tried importing tracks onto the SD card yet (I've only sent data the other way from SD to PC) but, according to the manual, it is possible as long as you name the files correctly.
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Mike Stranks » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:38 pm

Ronnie Wibbley wrote:
Until now I've been using the Cymatic LR-16 which I'm generally very pleased with, but even that needs a few minutes to set up, more space around the desk and cables everywhere. This seems a more elegant solution. Looking forward to giving it its first outing!

I, too, was an LR-16 person before I bought this Behringer. It will enable me to combine all my requirements for live sound and recording in one unit. I was allwet to but an L-12 before the Behringers were offered at the current bargain price. I don't need overdubbing so it does everything I need.

PS. Anyone wanna buy an LR-16 - complete with looms? :D
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Mike Stranks » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:55 pm

Double-joy...

Just discovered that the Gator MixBag that I bought in the summer for some other (about to be disposed of) kit fits the Behringer perfectly.
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Phunky » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:40 pm

I've just received mine. Impressive looking piece of gear considering the price-tag(311 euros).
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Ronnie Wibbley » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:39 pm

Hard case for mine has just turned up, so now the rest of the band can resume their airport baggage handler impressions when loading gear in and out of the car. :D
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby blinddrew » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:26 pm

You mean they actually help?
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Wonks » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:40 pm

For a certain value of 'help'.
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Re: Behringer UFX-1604 Available for Silly Money!

Postby Alba » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:05 am

fyi, Thomann have stock in Belgium have got some in stock at €299 inc vat and delivery to the UK.

And now I see they are showing 'available immediately' on the UK site too.

https://www.thomann.de/be/behringer_xen ... bd1fc217ed

And apparently Preamps sound warm, clear and loud without self noises.
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