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midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby thefruitfarmer » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:58 pm

Hello

I have a midiman midisport 4x4 and 2x2, pre 2000.

Will they work under Windows 10?

Their website doesn't list them as products being supported

https://m-audio.com/kb/article/1882

It leads you to this driver,

https://m-audio.com/support/download/drivers/midisport-windows-driver-v6.1.3

which is the one I have been using but it now has stopped working. It did work in Reaper despite showing error messages but since scan computers sent round an engineer to replace the mobo on my new PC Reaper cannot see the two midi interfaces at all. Annoyingly, the input lights show when sending midi out from a synth but the midi goes no further.....

It would appear from searching google that this driver is not going to work for these products under W10.

The workarounds include using the windows midi drivers or a search for "m-audio W10 drivers midiman 4x4" reveals third party drivers....

Is it worth persevering with this?

NOt sure I trust third party drivers....

Maybe I shoud just get a new one? Any recommendations for a good 4x4 MIDI interface?

Thanks
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby Music Wolf » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:22 pm

I'm still using a 2x2 with W10. I'll have to dig around and see what driver I'm using.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby tonemangler » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:23 pm

Hi thefruitfarmer, I don't have an answer for you but the second link in your post shows that the v6.1.3 driver is compatible with Win 10, so technically it should work with your system. I use a midisport 2×2 under Win 7 and my new computer build will be Win 10, so I will be in a similar situation. I hope you can get them working.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby thefruitfarmer » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:26 am

tonemangler wrote:Hi thefruitfarmer, I don't have an answer for you but the second link in your post shows that the v6.1.3 driver is compatible with Win 10, so technically it should work with your system. I use a midisport 2×2 under Win 7 and my new computer build will be Win 10, so I will be in a similar situation. I hope you can get them working.

That v6.1.3 driver will only work for the "Anniversary Editions" in W10, not the original midiman interfaces.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby thefruitfarmer » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:28 am

Music Wolf wrote:I'm still using a 2x2 with W10. I'll have to dig around and see what driver I'm using.

If you can find me a working driver that would be much appreciated !
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby Music Wolf » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:40 am

I just checked and my Midiman has stopped working with latest update (although it was working previously with W10). It looks as though I may also be in the market for a new interface.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby thefruitfarmer » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:34 pm

Music Wolf wrote:I just checked and my Midiman has stopped working with latest update (although it was working previously with W10). It looks as though I may also be in the market for a new interface.

Mine only stopped working within the last week so it could be a W10 update.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby tonemangler » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:54 pm

thefruitfarmer wrote:That v6.1.3 driver will only work for the "Anniversary Editions" in W10, not the original midiman interfaces.

That sucks. Out of curiosity did you try uninstalling the midiman driver and trying the generic windows 10 USB driver? The other option is to see if you can pick up an Anniversary Edition from somewhere. They still sell the 2×2 at the local music store here in Toronto for $79 Cdn, or maybe used? I will also be dealing with this issue once my new PC is built, so I would be interested if you find a solution. Good luck!
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Postby thefruitfarmer » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:30 am

tonemangler wrote:
thefruitfarmer wrote:That v6.1.3 driver will only work for the "Anniversary Editions" in W10, not the original midiman interfaces.

That sucks. Out of curiosity did you try uninstalling the midiman driver and trying the generic windows 10 USB driver? The other option is to see if you can pick up an Anniversary Edition from somewhere. They still sell the 2×2 at the local music store here in Toronto for $79 Cdn, or maybe used? I will also be dealing with this issue once my new PC is built, so I would be interested if you find a solution. Good luck!

I have not tried using the W10 generic driver yet but here is the link I found explaining how to do it:

https://getsatisfaction.com/m-audio/topics/midisport-2x2-and-4x4-not-detected-in-windows-10-preview-editions

To be honest I was hoping to find someone who has already done this so I am not walking untrodden ground but I may have a go over the weekend.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace.

Postby thefruitfarmer » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:26 am

I had a closer look at that thread

https://getsatisfaction.com/m-audio/topics/midisport-2x2-and-4x4-not-detected-in-windows-10-preview-editions

and it seems that the generic W10 drivers won't work with old midiman interfaces.

I have asked the question over there too but I will probably be ordering a new W10 class compliant MIDI interface over the next few days.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby Music Wolf » Sat May 11, 2019 8:39 am

I had been planning to get a new MIDI interface but, last night, I downloaded the W10 drivers for the anniversary edition of the 2x2 and my older, pre-anniversay, 2x2 is now working fine.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby scw » Sun May 12, 2019 10:30 pm

Hi folks
Just thought I'd chime in as I was previously anxious about this. I bought the anniversary midiman in anticipation of needing it.

I updated to Win10 Pro from Win7 today in view of the fact that MS is dropping support early next year. To my surprise my old midiman midisport 2x2 is working absolutely fine. ho hum! I'm pleased anyway and the windows update was painless!!

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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby Martin Walker » Mon May 13, 2019 12:27 am

scw wrote:I updated to Win10 Pro from Win7 today in view of the fact that MS is dropping support early next year. To my surprise my old midiman midisport 2x2 is working absolutely fine. ho hum! I'm pleased anyway and the windows update was painless!!

That's good news Stewart, although in these circumstances there are no guarantees that a future Windows 10 update won't clobber your good luck :thumbdown:

Fingers crossed that your midisport carries on working perfectly for years to come ;)


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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby ef37a » Mon May 13, 2019 8:03 am

"That's good news Stewart, although in these circumstances there are no guarantees that a future Windows 10 update won't clobber your good luck"

I am sure I read recently Martin that Ms have now made W10 updates optional and "harmless" or was that just a wishful dream?

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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby Chromeman » Thu May 23, 2019 6:14 pm

thefruitfarmer wrote:
That v6.1.3 driver will only work for the "Anniversary Editions" in W10, not the original midiman interfaces.


My 2x2 original is working with this driver under W10 without any issues.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby thefruitfarmer » Fri May 24, 2019 6:59 am

Chromeman wrote:
thefruitfarmer wrote:
That v6.1.3 driver will only work for the "Anniversary Editions" in W10, not the original midiman interfaces.


My 2x2 original is working with this driver under W10 without any issues.

That's good to hear. My testing was with the 4x4 rather than the 2x2.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby Music Wolf » Fri May 24, 2019 7:14 am

Have you tried the anniversary driver?

The Midiman website was somewhat vague and initially I read that the 2x2 drivers were only for the anniversary edition but, further down the page it seemed to suggest that they'd also work for the older units. I installed and everything is working ok.
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Re: midiman midisport USB interface 4x4 and 2x2 - time to replace?

Postby thefruitfarmer » Fri May 24, 2019 3:43 pm

Music Wolf wrote:Have you tried the anniversary driver?
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No, I couldn't find anyone saying they had done it and made it work so I chickened out.

From reading the replies it seemes like the 2x2 will probably work with the anniversary driver but the 4x4 may have issues.
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