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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby AlecSp » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:49 pm

My message is simple. Never buy an SM58 on ebay, you're *almost* guaranteed that it'll be a fake.
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Guest » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:22 am

[quote="Wonks"]The mic advertised is supposed to have a switch. The mic shown in the photo is an SM58 with no switch (the switch is on the same side of the mic as the XLR fixing screw which can be seen in the photo). Therefore it's a stock photo and [u]not[/u] of the mic being sold. That along with the low price and a seller with only 3 feedback - all for expensive mics selling way lower than retail price - make it almost certain that its either a fake or stolen goods.[/quote]

[quote="ef37a"]Do not, BTW ever buy a microphone with a switch on it. People fiddle and you don't know if it is live or not until you get horrendous feedback. The switches are also a source of unrelaibilty.
Dave.[/quote]

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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Wonks » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:45 am

Not quite sure what you are querying, but ef37a's comment is generally good advice. You don't want/need one when recording.

Live, you generally don't want a mic with a switch as people do meddle with them. It is a source of noise and can cause large pops over the PA when turned on or off. It is just something else that can fail over time and the mic won't last as long as one without a switch (except for major physical damage) because of this.

You don't want to go to sing or start to speak and find the mic is switched off. As said, there have been many times when a switched-off mic is switched back on and instant feedback has occurred because the mic has been moved to a more feedback-prone location or someone's raised a volume level etc. In the meantime. Without a switch this would become apparent beforetime.

There are occasions where a switch can be usefull, such as at a small conference with no one looking after the PA and the speakers/panel may want to have a discussion without it being heard (or recorded). But for almost all pro purposes, a mic without an on/off switch is better.
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby AlecSp » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:23 pm

Wonks wrote:There are occasions where a switch can be usefull, such as at a small conference with no one looking after the PA and the speakers/panel may want to have a discussion without it being heard (or recorded). But for almost all pro purposes, a mic without an on/off switch is better.
Talkback mic...
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby ef37a » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:27 pm

AlecSp wrote:
Wonks wrote:There are occasions where a switch can be usefull, such as at a small conference with no one looking after the PA and the speakers/panel may want to have a discussion without it being heard (or recorded). But for almost all pro purposes, a mic without an on/off switch is better.
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Indeed but only with Push to Talk otherwise the MD might find out EXACTLY what the recording engineer thinks of him!

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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby innerchord » Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:51 pm

Does the OP want an SM58, or will any cheap mic do?

If it's the former, just go to your nearest store and buy one. 'Shurely' that's obvious. Why try to save just a few pounds? You'll get a keen price, help a local retailer and have a nice box and printed receipt to help prove that it's genuine if you have to sell it.

If you want a '58 clone, there are usable mics from many well-known companies at half the price of the Shure.
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Mike Stranks » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:07 pm

The OP is quite clear that he wants an SM58. I have discussed other options with him, but he prefers to stick with an SM58.

Probably best not to open that discussion again. :)
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Sam Spoons » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:08 pm

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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Guest » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:53 am

Just to add further I want a used sm58 at half the price of a new one
So I guess 30-40 quid would do
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby BigRedX » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:39 am

Are you sure you want to buy a second hand microphone? I can understand it for some esoteric model that has never seen use outside of a studio and has a 4 figure price tag new.

But an SM58? Have you seen what happens to a typical SM58 in use? It's not nice:

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Most are abused until they can no longer be economically repair and then are replaced with a new microphone. The only way I would buy a second hand SM58 is if I knew exactly what sort of use it had gone through before being sold.
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby AlecSp » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:29 am

music master wrote:Just to add further I want a used sm58 at [rather less than] half the price of a new one
So I guess 30-40 quid would do
That'd be a great bargain for you. Unfortunately, we have to remind you again, that your £30-40 "SM58" is very unlikely to be the genuine article.
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:46 am

music master wrote:Just to add further I want a used sm58 at half the price of a new one. So I guess 30-40 quid would do

I think, being realistic, it's unlikely you'll find what you seek. Genuine SM58s tend not to come up as second-hand items because they last forever and are always useful. So even if someone upgrades to a better mic, the old SM58 tends to be kept as an emergency spare or in case an extra mic is needed at some point, not least because they are such a well-known and reliable product. The sale value is generally outweighed by the ongoing usefulness value.

But if you are determined to find a low-cost sm58, please do search the web for articles on how to spot fakes first -- such as the one I linked earlier -- so that you are equipped to identify whether your potential purchase is all it claims to be!
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Mike Stranks » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:30 am

I can only agree...

I'm still in PM contact with music master so am aware of some of his broader thinking.

As a result and because of his comments here about what he'd like to pay for a secondhand SM58 I had a quick look at what's on offer on EBay... A very C+ collection... bruised, battered and dented or simply too good to be true.

He definitely doesn't want anything but an SM58, but I fear if he isn't very careful he'll end up with either a pup or a fake.
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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:52 am

Given that a new one is only £90, it will last a lifetime, and it won't come with someone elses's chinese takeaway splattered throughout the grille, I'd recommend saving up a few more pennies... :D

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Re: Prices of the sm58 mic

Postby Guest » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:49 am

A few years ago Synthtopia had a link to an arty performance that consisted entirely of a female performer producing a sort of feedback sound by putting the microphone in and out of her mouth (I am trying to describe the performance tactfully). My wife suggested that after the performance she could have probably have sold the mic for much more than it was new.
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