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Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby BillB » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:06 pm

What an absolute treat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV3qDUTVsNo

55 minutes

Exquisite.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby desmond » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:45 pm

Yep, his vids are great (he did a nice Jupiter 8 one too in the same style which is worth a watch).

In general, it seems the more expensive, exclusive and rare a synth is, the worse the available videos are. Got a Yamaha GX1? The videos will be shaky phone cam in the dark with phone-recorded distorted audio.

But a Behringer mono synth? It will be perfect audio, beautifully shot and lit, sliders galore and dreamy bokeh...

Anyway, I'm not really a fan of the CS80 *sound* so much (or really, any of the Yamaha CS's, although I have a fondness for the little CS01 from mostly nostalgie reasons) but Dave certainly makes it sound pretty beautiful in his vid, and makes me warm to it more than previously.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby BillB » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:47 pm

desmond wrote:Yep, his vids are great (he did a nice Jupiter 8 one too in the same style which is worth a watch).

Thanks for the pointer, Desmond. Just watched it - also lovely.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:10 pm

Nice video -- thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that before.

The CS80 is a very recognisable sound -- as is the sound of the Jupiter 8 and several other well known 'classics'. And different people love/hate the sound of different synths...

But the thing about the CS80 is how playable it is, how it responds to the musician's touch, and that doesnt really come across in a video of the sound it makes. You really have to play it to get it, and nothing else (mainstream) really matches it.


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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby desmond » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:25 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Nice video -- thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that before.

It's new, he only posted it a couple of days ago.

Hugh Robjohns wrote:The CS80 is a very recognisable sound -- as is the sound of the Jupiter 8 and several other well known 'classics'. And different people love/hate the sound of different synths...

Indeed.

Hugh Robjohns wrote:But the thing about the CS80 is how playable it is, how it responds to the musician's touch, and that doesnt really come across in a video of the sound it makes. You really have to play it to get it, and nothing else (mainstream) really matches it.

Yes, it's still right up there in the playability and expression stakes... Dave does a good job at demoing this I think, but yes, the experience is really about how it feels to play, yourself...
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby Eddy Deegan » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:33 pm

I thought that was one of the best balances between demo/playing and explanation I've yet seen. Great stuff, and it conveys how special the CS80 was/is really well :thumbup:
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:37 pm

Roll on Behringer's re-working of it.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby BillB » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:48 pm

Hugh Robjohns wrote:Roll on Behringer's re-working of it.

Mmmm, couldn't help thinking the same, especially as Dave was explaining the nightmare of keeping it maintained and the 180W power consumption....
or is that what gives it the warm sound? :headbang:
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby The Elf » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:53 am

I never had much time for the CS80 back in the day. It was overweight, overpriced and prone to overheating. Keeping it in tune was a constant exercise. I played one for a while, but I didn't take to it. I still find the architecture and front panel baffling! It just shows how personal some of this stuff is.

I think I must be the only synth player in the world who actually doesn't revere this synth and the Bladerunner soundtrack - in fact I didn't even enjoy the film. There must be something wrong with me!

But I also would love to see Behringer bring a new CS80 to the world. It definitely has a recognisable character, and that's a good thing in any synth.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby desmond » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:06 am

The Elf wrote:I think I must be the only synth player in the world who actually doesn't revere this synth and the Bladerunner soundtrack - in fact I didn't even enjoy the film. There must be something wrong with me!

As I said above, I'm not super jazzed about the CS range in general. And, although I am a sci-fi fan in general, and appreciate Bladerunner for many things, as a film it's always left me cold, and I kind of feel like I'm a bad sci-fi fan for not liking it.

So no, you're not alone! :thumbup:
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby n o i s e f l e ur » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:44 am

The Elf wrote:
I think I must be the only synth player in the world who actually doesn't revere this synth and the Bladerunner soundtrack - in fact I didn't even enjoy the film. There must be something wrong with me!


Nope, you're not. It's cheesy as f*ck . . . the soundtrack that is. Just awful, awful 70s progw*ank more suited to slow-motion moustache porn than decent sci-fi. It sounded old-fashioned in 1982, a fat sweaty hairy embarrasment.

That Rutger Hauer monologue though? Worth the price of admission just for that alone.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby n o i s e f l e ur » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:46 am

Not that I'd describe myself as a synth-player mind you!
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby BillB » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:16 am

n o i s e f l e ur wrote:Nope, you're not. It's cheesy as f*ck . . . the soundtrack that is. Just awful, awful 70s progw*ank more suited to slow-motion moustache porn than decent sci-fi. It sounded old-fashioned in 1982, a fat sweaty hairy embarrasment.

Well, that makes two of you...
I agree that ‘the love theme’ - the one with that sordid saxophone - precisely fits your porn description.
But as to the the rest, yes, you will probably find yourself at odds with most of the sci-if and synth fans of the world.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby Eddy Deegan » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:31 am

Blade Runner is my second favourite film of all time and I love the soundtrack, as well as the bits and pieces on the other 2 CDs in the 25th Anniversary edition.

I thought the CS80 sounded gorgeous in the video, though as the chap said, reverb does make a lot of difference.

Mind you, some (odd) people don't mind external power supplies. I also very much like the entire Top Gun soundtrack and I'm not really a fan of The Beatles. I respect their impact, performance and songwriting but don't like 'the sound' much so I suppose it takes all sorts :lol:

Dear Uli,

I am writing on behalf of a friend who would very much like a 1 octave mini CS80 with an external power supply ...


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Re: Yamaha CS80 - Dave Spiers' love letter

Postby Rich Hanson » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:34 am

Eddy Deegan wrote:
Dear Uli,

I am writing on behalf of a friend who would very much like a 1 octave mini CS80 with an external power supply ...


Oops, wrong tab, sorry.

Was that the sound of The Elf exploding I just heard?
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