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Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby The Elf » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:25 pm

I've had the 2600 for a couple of weeks now, so I'm happy to now drop a few lines to say what I think of it...

It definitely has the ARP character. The old ARP Pro Soloist nasal 'Fuzz Guitar 1' that I often program into other synths, and can be very tricky to conjure, here is a doddle to find. Similarly I can rustle up my other 'signature' Pro Soloist and Odyssey patches pretty swiftly.

I've had no problem creating any of the typical lead, bass and typical daily driver patches I need, but the amount of additional weirdness on offer here is immense - and a big reason for me making the purchase. As one who has eschewed modular synthesis this machine represents a good compromise for the limits of my patience. There are areas of this synth the need for which will be rare, and others that I really don't understand ('Elec Switch'?), but it's nice to know they're there.

The difference between the filters is subtle - much more subtle than the Odyssey variations. If anything I'm finding myself on the 4012 filter most often. Resonance seems to be pitched down slightly on the 4012, but beyond that I wouldn't say I could pick out one from the other.

If I have significant criticisms they are pretty much down to the original design of the 2600. I still hate not having octave switches for the oscillators - this more than anything has me grinding my teeth over and over. When all I want to do is drop one of the oscillators an octave it's a pain having to tune it every damned time. I also find some of the hard-patched routings oddly chosen. For example, I'd prefer the sawtooth waves of osc 1/2 be hard-patched, rather than the square waves, and, to me, AR to pitch would be more frequently useful than ADSR. Behringer have at least given us a hard-patched sawtooth from osc 3, which is an improvement on the original. The scaling of the envelope times is a bit strange. As I said, all of these points are about the original 2600 design, not this recreation.

In fact the improvements that Behringer have made from the original design are to be applauded. Behringer haven't broken anything here, but simply added features and flexibility. I have no complaints at all in this regard.

I really wish that at the least a delay had been added, rather than the reverb - I know many might complain about this overstepping the concept of a recreation, and an external FX processor is simple to attach, but a true stereo effects engine would have been the sweetest icing on the cake.

Obviously I'm going to bemoan the external PSU, but I have my own cure for that...

The reverb... Sure it sounds like a spring, of sorts. It's mono with the opposite polarity trick to create a (mono incompatible) pseudo-stereo effect. The best I can say about it is that it can be bypassed - and for me that's how it will remain.

The blue and grey 2600 models are on their way - with a reputedly 'improved' component choice in the filter and... a real spring reverb. :yawn: It does make me wonder what the component 'improvement' might mean. Unless it's about longevity, it's purely of academic interest to me - I like well enough what I'm hearing here.

For me it's the 'Christmas Tree', black and orange 2600, or nothing. I don't find the other versions visually, or functionally, appealing. The coloured LEDs on this version are genuinely useful - the blue/green/blue for oscillators 1/2/3 is enough to stop me lifting the wrong fader in the filter section, for example; there are a lot of controls here and any help is welcome. I really don't see the sense of having all the fader caps the same colour - to me that completely misses the point! :headbang:

Big thumbs up here, then. This synth is already earning its keep, and that's a good sign. :thumbup:
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:40 pm

Interesting thoughts and observations. Thanks.
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby BJG145 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:15 pm

I was hoping to hear what you thought of it, glad you're enjoying it! :thumbup:
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Eddy Deegan » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:04 pm

I'm impressed that you like it as much as you do, that's a good sign. I'd really like to have one and I look forward to doing so at a future point once their corporate ethics permit my self-imposed Behringer boycott to expire!
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby blinddrew » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:21 pm

Eddy Deegan wrote:I'm impressed that you like it as much as you do, that's a good sign. I'd really like to have one and I look forward to doing so at a future point once their corporate ethics permit my self-imposed Behringer boycott to expire!
The year is 2348. Thanks to the miracles of modern science the decoded DNA signature that identifies as Eddy Deegan has a 2600 in his basket, he's thinking about pressing 'buy'...
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Eddy Deegan » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:46 pm

:lol:
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby The Elf » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:53 pm

Eddy Deegan wrote:I'm impressed that you like it as much as you do, that's a good sign. I'd really like to have one and I look forward to doing so at a future point once their corporate ethics permit my self-imposed Behringer boycott to expire!
I found a way to assuage my guilt to my own satisfaction, and benefit others into the bargain. I decided that since I didn't want to let down individuals and businesses that are already under immense pressure right now, I wouldn't cancel my outstanding orders.

Having made my peace I will move on. I get the feeling that this time around Behringer were genuinely taken aback by the strength of negative feeling. I hope it's a lesson learned, because right up until then they were doing the right things.

The 2600 is one of those pieces of gear that if you *think* you would like it - you will. It simply does everything you'd expect and more. And it makes me wish I had those helpful LED controls on my KArp Odyssey! :lol:
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Ben Asaro » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:07 am

Nice review, glad you're enjoying it!
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Agharta » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:38 am

blinddrew wrote:The year is 2348. Thanks to the miracles of modern science, the decoded DNA signature that identifies as Eddy Deegan has a 2600 in his basket, he's thinking about pressing 'buy'...
;)

This will all be virtual though, as by then all music will be hosted by the Music Tribe Matrix. ;)
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Martin Walker » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:38 am

Yep, thanks to The Elf for putting into words the emotions that might not come across fully in a review - pleased to hear that this 2600 is working so well for you.


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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Arpangel » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:26 am

Glad it’s working out for you Elf, and I’m sort of tempted by the grey one, but I’m still not sure, from just a sound point of view, forget about looks, I’m not sure it could do anything that I haven’t got covered elsewhere.
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Ben Asaro » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:28 pm

The Elf wrote:. I get the feeling that this time around Behringer were genuinely taken aback by the strength of negative feeling.
I think that as long as the Swing is still in production and selling, B will never change their tack. I don’t use or own any of their stuff, have no dog in this fight other than being an outside observer, but that’s my view. Time will tell if it’s right or wrong! :)
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby The Elf » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:34 pm

I think it would be an embarassing climb-down for Behringer to *not* sell the Swing. But since its launch they haven't exactly been making a lot of noise about it either...

Try a search and see how many places selling it are on the first couple of pages of hits.
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby Ben Asaro » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:46 pm

I hope you’re right!
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Re: Behringer 2600 - first impressions

Postby The Elf » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:58 pm

Ben Asaro wrote:I hope you’re right!
Imagine you're trying to buy one and see how far you get! ;)
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