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Good small monitor controller.

Postby Arpangel » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:57 pm

I’m now using my Motu and it’s out the way, studio is bigger,, all over the place, plus, a menu 3 pages in for output volume is not something I want to struggle with when making urgent volume adjustments.
I need a small maybe 2 in 2 out max monitor controller, good quality, with a nice big volume knob.
Any recommendations? as it’s something I’ve never really looked at or needed before.
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby CS70 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:07 pm

The Drawmer is the usual recommendation but I've been using a passive M-Patch 2 for a few years before switching to my current controller, and big fat knob it has. It served me well and I have no problem recommending it.
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Arpangel » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:24 pm

CS70 wrote:The Drawmer is the usual recommendation but I've been using a passive M-Patch 2 for a few years before switching to my current controller, and big fat knob it has. It served me well and I have no problem recommending it.

Thanks a million, would that be one of these?

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/sm-pro-m-patch-2

Trouble is can’t seem to find one anywhere, I’ll keep looking!
I’ve seen the Mackie Big Knob Passive too, don't know what that’s like?

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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Kwackman » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:30 pm

Arpangel wrote:
CS70 wrote:Thanks a million, would that be one of these?

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/sm-pro-m-patch-2

Trouble is can’t seem to find one anywhere, I’ll keep looking!

They're now made by/badged JBL M-Patch 2

https://jblpro.com/products/m-patch-2

Dunno if they're still available though.
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby CS70 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:35 pm

Yeah exactly!

https://jblpro.com/en/products/m-patch-2

But Kwackman is right as they seem to have disappeared from the big distributors, so maybe there's just some remaining stock or you have to look in the second hand market.
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby CS70 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:38 pm

For the Mackie Big Knob, I remember vaguely that the active version is noisy, the passive isn't. Something written by Hugh here sometimes, I think.. :)
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Arpangel » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:41 pm

Thanks all, looks like the JBL is cool, but it’s a pricey, what about the the Nano Patch? the Big knob seems out of stock.
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:43 pm

Kwackman wrote:Dunno if they're still available though.

It appears to have been discontinued!

If Tony just wants a simple large volume control without all the other facilities of a monitor controller, then the TC Pilot X is a good bet at £46 or so. Balanced XLRs in and out. Keep your cables short between interface/pilot/speakers, and job done. (NB Do NOT get the Pilot C!, and the X is in stock at BAX.)
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https://www.bax-shop.co.uk/studio-monitor-controller/tc-electronic-level-pilot-x-xlr-speaker-volume-controller

Or there's the JBL Nanopatch+ at £67. One currently in stock at Gear4Music...
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https://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/JBL-NanoPatchand-Volume-Controller/1GW0?origin=product-ads

I sometimes use a Nanopatch if I need a quick and easy passive volume control... but the TC is supposed to use a Bourns pot so might be better balanced...
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Arpangel » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:45 pm

Thanks Hugh, job done indeed, looks like it’ll fit the bill.

PS, just ordered it Hugh, delivered next Friday.

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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby blinddrew » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:32 pm

I was looking at the TC volume knob before a loan of a more comprehensive controller (thank you!) convinced me that having mono, sides, phase, and multiple inputs all added some value.
I went with a Drawmer and am very happy with it.
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Music Wolf » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:00 pm

I have a Nanopatch kicking around somewhere, it worked fine. I also have one of these

Image https://www.thomann.de/gb/swissonic_m_control.htm Which I would put between digital mixer and FOH speakers so that I had some physical control in case of emergencies when mixing from the stage.
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Martin Walker » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:09 pm

Arpangel wrote:
CS70 wrote:The Drawmer is the usual recommendation but I've been using a passive M-Patch 2 for a few years before switching to my current controller, and big fat knob it has. It served me well and I have no problem recommending it.

Thanks a million, would that be one of these?

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/sm-pro-m-patch-2

Ah, my review of the M-Patch 2 always brings back warm memories, partly because it was one of the few occasions where SOS used a photograph I took during the review 8-)


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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Guest » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:13 am

I was gonna recommend the Audient Nero. I adore mine :D
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Arpangel » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:32 am

The TC is just a knob :)
Which is great, it addresses what I want to do perfectly, with no distractions.

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PS, reviews of the previous versions of this are awful, I’m worried, poor imaging at low levels, and crackling, signal degradation.

:shocked: :crazy: :(
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Re: Good small monitor controller.

Postby Bob Bickerton » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:46 am

I’ve used a TC for sometime on location - no problems and smooth operation if you’re just after a volume control.

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